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weed IS addictive * 1
    #13933309 - 02/09/11 02:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)


Wow, I didn't think this thread would explode like it did.
All I wanted to say was that I think too often people try and portray weed as this perfect substance that has NO negative side effects and that simply isn't true.
It's not addictive in the same way heroin, or nicotine, or even caffeine is, but there are addictive properties to weed and anyone who disagrees is in denial IMO.
I smoke weed every day...and I can go a week at a time without it but I ALWAYS buy another bag. It is the ONLY drug I've done that I keep coming back to.
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Everyone always says "weed isn't addictive" blah blah blah, and to be honest I used to think that was true. Sure, weed isn't PHYSICALLY addictive, but it is VERY psychologically addictive.
I've been a regular smoker now for the past 2 years, every day.
I've reached a point in my life where I'm just fed up with how much money I'm spending on weed (between $80-$150 a week), and so I've decided to try and take a break for a few months.
Today is day 1 of my break, and the FIRST thing I thought about this morning when I woke up was smoking a bowl.
I have the cash, I have the hook up, and I REALLY want to smoke....but I'd like to think I have the self control to not buy a sack.
Anyone out there successfully quit smoking weed? If so how long did it take before you didn't feel like you HAD to smoke?


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917] * 3
    #13933328 - 02/09/11 02:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Sure it's addictive to weak-minded people


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917]
    #13933331 - 02/09/11 02:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I used to be a once a week, only on weekends smoker.  Lately I've been using it medicinally way more often, but still not every day.  I wonder what will happen once my medical stuff is cleared up.  I prefer the weekend thing to be honest.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917] * 2
    #13933332 - 02/09/11 02:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Psychological addiction has nothing to do with the substance and everything to do with the individual.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917]
    #13933337 - 02/09/11 02:20 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You are mentally weak if you're seriously addicted. :facepalm:

You've only been smoking for two years...:bored:


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917] * 2
    #13933340 - 02/09/11 02:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Everything you get used to is that way.

Eat chocolate everyday for a couple years then stop and you'll feel the same way.

An addiction is generally considered something with true negative side effects when you stop. 

Try getting addicted to heroin or even opiates and stop that.  Then you'll know real addiction and withdrawals.

Just because you're jonsing for a doobie, doesn't mean it's addictive.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917] * 1
    #13933343 - 02/09/11 02:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Gotta say I'm in an entirely different boat; I've been an on and off smoker for about 5 years, sometimes smoking daily for months on end, sometimes smoking once a month, a couple times on breaks of over a month. Never felt addicted or that I "need" to smoke. There are plenty of times where the thought occurs to me: "It would be awesome if I was high right now", but it rarely if ever affects my purchasing habits or daily life activities.

There was one time in my life when I had to abstain from smoking for a period of just over 4 months and I didn't really have a problem going cold turkey except when I'd go out. Make sure to keep yourself away from that kind of pressure if you can because that is what will break your streak more than anything else.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917]
    #13933344 - 02/09/11 02:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

First of all i wish you the very best. i don't find weed a bad drug. but it is addictive. Im on my 4th day since i stopped. i only smoke pure MJ no tobacco or other additives. been smoking for 7 years or so up to a point i smoke so much i can barely finish sentences. i stopped for a year when traveling to OZ but when i got back home it was a matter of hours before i was stoned shitless and passed out in the bathtub. been smoking everyday since.I hope i can stick it out now.

Good Luck it takes about 2 weeks from my experience.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: virus1824]
    #13933362 - 02/09/11 02:28 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck, i get addicted to chocolate if i eat a bar each day. :facepalm3:


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 2
    #13933369 - 02/09/11 02:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Sure it's addictive to weak-minded people




Get off your high horse. Cunt.

I've had a similar problem. The thing is, weed is an anti-anxiety medication for me...if I quit smoking entirely, then I'd have to go back to maintenance doses of Zoloft or Busipar. So my solution was to cut my weed intake down to strictly medical doses...I portion out about .25gs or less for every day, put the portions in one of those MTWTHF pill container things, and only smoke once in the morning and once at night. I don't even really get high, but it sure beats being a nervous wreck. And it's cut my spending down to about 30 a week, rather than 60 or more.

And I agree that it is addictive. The body and mind are connected...whether its physical or psychological, it's still part of the same organism...it's still addiction. Just a mild one.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anneji]
    #13933372 - 02/09/11 02:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

funny how it works out. you think weed should relax you. sometimes it does but i've had anxiety attacks directly after smoking a joint


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anneji]
    #13933375 - 02/09/11 02:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Sure it's addictive to weak-minded people




Get off your high horse. Cunt.

I've had a similar problem. The thing is, weed is an anti-anxiety medication for me...if I quit smoking entirely, then I'd have to go back to maintenance doses of Zoloft or Busipar. So my solution was to cut my weed intake down to strictly medical doses...I portion out about .25gs or less for every day, put the portions in one of those MTWTHF pill container things, and only smoke once in the morning and once at night. I don't even really get high, but it sure beats being a nervous wreck. And it's cut my spending down to about 30 a week, rather than 60 or more.

And I agree that it is addictive. The body and mind are connected...whether its physical or psychological, it's still part of the same organism...it's still addiction. Just a mild one.



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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: virus1824]
    #13933376 - 02/09/11 02:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is psychologically addictive in the same way that video games and gambling are addictive. It's fun so stupid people feel like they have to do it all the time.

I have been recently hearing from people that say they have physical withdrawal symptoms like anorexia. Haven't looked into it myself but they were swearing by it.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: virus1824]
    #13933385 - 02/09/11 02:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Everything pleasurable is mentally addictive.  Where I've had issues in the past is when it was part of a routine and it was that routine rather than the smoking itself that was hard to break.  Try to change things up as much as you can.  The rest is just desire and mental fortitude.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917]
    #13933387 - 02/09/11 02:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You really have to want to quit.  I tried quitting before, having it on my mind all the time like you.  When i quit successfully, i literally had zero desire to smoke.  I always heard people tell me you really have to want it, then one day something clicked and i finally understood what they meant.  I experienced some withdrawal symptoms for the first 2 weeks- terrible insomnia, irritability, depression, irrational thinking.  After a month i was surprised at how mentally sharp i was.  My memory was better than it ever was.  After a couple months i started smoking again, but i toned it down A LOT.  You'll probably purposely or inadvertently avoid a lot of your friends.  You'll realize a lot of them spend the majority of the time getting high or finding weed.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #13933407 - 02/09/11 02:40 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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EdgeChaos said:
Weed is psychologically addictive in the same way that video games and gambling are addictive. It's fun so stupid people feel like they have to do it all the time.

I have been recently hearing from people that say they have physical withdrawal symptoms like anorexia. Haven't looked into it myself but they were swearing by it.




So only stupid people get addicted to things? :facepalm:
Gambling is addicting because the thrill and rush you get when you win is unlike any other feeling I've ever experienced. Although, nothing feels worse than losing all your money, so that's an easy one to stay away from.
I also disagree with people saying if you eat chocolate every day you'll get addicted to it.
Eating chocolate doesn't get you high. Weed does.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917]
    #13933422 - 02/09/11 02:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I also disagree with people saying if you eat chocolate every day you'll get addicted to it.
Eating chocolate doesn't get you high. Weed does.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_chocolate#As_a_stimulant

Interestingly enough, chocolate is basically a drug.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #13933429 - 02/09/11 02:44 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Sure it's addictive to weak-minded people




Haa...ironic...

Anyways, it is known that marijuana DOES have some degree of psychological addictiveness. Also like ole boy said...doing anything for a couple years becomes more-so a habit.
I kno what you mean tho. I find myself at times really get bad weed cravings myself. The best thing to keep your mind off weed tho is to do something else that doesn't involve it. Like a habit, if you set your mind to it, you can change it.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Alby]
    #13933432 - 02/09/11 02:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

gambling doesn't get you high either. neither does playing video games. though both are addicting.


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Re: weed IS addictive [Re: Anthony917]
    #13933451 - 02/09/11 02:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

EdgeChaos said:
Weed is psychologically addictive in the same way that video games and gambling are addictive. It's fun so stupid people feel like they have to do it all the time.

I have been recently hearing from people that say they have physical withdrawal symptoms like anorexia. Haven't looked into it myself but they were swearing by it.




So only stupid people get addicted to things? :facepalm:
Gambling is addicting because the thrill and rush you get when you win is unlike any other feeling I've ever experienced. Although, nothing feels worse than losing all your money, so that's an easy one to stay away from.
I also disagree with people saying if you eat chocolate every day you'll get addicted to it.
Eating chocolate doesn't get you high. Weed does.




Getting high has nothing to do with it.
This is the kind of misinformation that just hurts the entire legalization cause.

Let me break down something.
There are two main types of addiction, physical and psychological. It is possible to be psychologically addicted to ANYTHING. If you drink hot chocolate every morning for that sugar boost, then guess what, if you stop, you will be jonesing for that hot chocolate.

It has NOTHING to do with the substance. Let me repeat that. NOTHING to do with the substance, and everything with the effect you gain from it, whether that is the high, or the fun of online gaming, or gambling, or anything else.

You cannot blame weed for you wanting it every day. It did NOT change your brain structure to make you crave it. It is because you associate it with something you like, and so want it.

Physical addiction on the other hand is quite different.
Your brain is actually rewired to think that the substance (nicotine, etc) is vital to the bodies very survival. Hence when you stop taking it your body throws a fit much how what happens if you do not sleep, eat, etc.

See the difference????


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