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 The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) 
#13795813 - 01/16/11 11:07 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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(to clarify the western ideal of hash can extend from bubble to beezwax to hash oil. while the eastern hashish has a wide rang of substance to choose from. i'm speaking of ideologue, and not to make any generalization, they are good hash spinners in california, and there are bad hash spinners in the east (soap bar)
To me, smoking the western (californian) version of hashish, what I think of as the valley girl ideologue, is inherently a hollow gesture. They make the hash with the intent to get the utmost potency out of it, im using bubble hash or beezwax as the example.
The economy that surrounds it has a cultural capitalistic motiff that your helping local farmers, it's good for the economy, it's the most potent/utilitarian/efficient (therefor the best) form of hashish, what's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. I believe this to be an incomplete assumption, and see it as selfish economics. they persuade you into thinking you are getting the best, most potent product, at the best price, the best efficiency. It boils down to the selfish act of "getting off", just getting the biggest bang for your buck. made in mass quantities and sold in slander, only for the capital gain. they make this drug not to get people high or make them feel good, but to get them off as hard as they can. attempting to make the most money made by the producer, and supposedly the less money spent by the consumer.
while the opposing school of thought comes from eastern hashish. i have read anecdotes of naked women running through fields of cannabis, and people hand scraping the trichomes and kief that come off of their bodies. they take the most delicate measures to create their hashish. they also smoke hashish traditionally, communally, and have metaphorical or symbolic reasons for smoking it. the point is not to "get off as hard as you can" for the cheapest price, but to enjoy the taste, the aroma, the tradition of the experience(of smoking the hash). it gives off a positive energy, and need not get as high as you possible can. its smoked for the revealing properties and the liberating effects it has on the mind. this hashish is also and let's not bullshit a fraction of the price of american hash.
in addendum i think that these symbolic differences in preparing, making and smoking the hash, even the motivations and reasons behind the entire system of hash: can and will effect the high. the stain of the producers intentions gets trailed like muddy footsteps thru a clean house, or rose pedals leading to a seductive bed to an all night lover, depending on what, why and how they want their hash used.
so then it's my opinion that, while the hash of the east may be far less potent, it is still of better quality, has symbolic meaning in smoking it, even the general atmosphere of the experience will enlighten. while the valley girl ideal is smoke smoke smokin away like a monkey jacking off in the corner, just tryin to get off one more time.
just food for thought, discuss?
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything] 1
#13795883 - 01/16/11 11:30 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is probably the wrong forum for a competent hypothesis-test discussion 
i need to go back to trolling.
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13795888 - 01/16/11 11:31 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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naked women running through fields of cannabis, and people hand scraping the trichomes and kief that come off of their bodies.
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: 240779]
#13795919 - 01/16/11 11:38 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some quick research tells me this is mentioned in Hashish by Robert Connell Clarke (scroll down to "Editorial Reviews").
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything] 1
#13796000 - 01/16/11 12:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have read anecdotes of naked women running through fields of cannabis, and people hand scraping the trichomes and kief that come off of their bodies.
I've always heard of that being done with naked men and never even thought about the opposite.
When I actually thought about naked, nubile women running through fields of cannabis in order for me to scrape the resin off of their bodies I cupped my hands to my mouth and realized that heaven *can* exist here on earth.  .
This thread has gotten me thinking a lot about hashish.
Holy fuck; I had a dream last night about hashish that I didn't remember until just this second.
I also had a dream (again last night) that my 10", around 4' long straw logs got trich 
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: Humility] 1
#13796007 - 01/16/11 12:11 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Humility said:
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i have read anecdotes of naked women running through fields of cannabis, and people hand scraping the trichomes and kief that come off of their bodies.
I've always heard of that being done with naked men and never even thought about the opposite.
When I actually thought about naked, nubile women running through fields of cannabis in order for me to scrape the resin off of their bodies I cupped my hands to my mouth and realized that heaven *can* exist here on earth. .
This thread has gotten me thinking a lot about hashish.
Holy fuck; I had a dream last night about hashish that I didn't remember until just this second.
I also had a dream (again last night) that my 10", around 4' long straw logs got trich
yes this is the exact point that im trying to make!
the symbolic usage of hash in the east is to bring you closer to the metaphysical. (to heaven, the godhead, enlightenment, etc) as opposed to the valley girl mentallity of "get off as hard as you can"
the earth we live on is heaven and hell, that is what the yin yang represents. everything is dual, and language are only symbols, they do not explain everything. that is why all this metaphysical marglegargle is necessary, this is why we smoke hash
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13796055 - 01/16/11 12:26 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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So in answer to the first post, I don't think there's any difference. I think chemicals are chemicals. I don't necessarily think spiritual energy can be instilled in a substance. Gimme some hexane processed hash 
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: 240779]
#13796078 - 01/16/11 12:32 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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you have to think about it like the intentions of the person who produces the hash, affects the intentions of the person they are selling it to, all the way down the line. the intention gets universalized in the very structure that is the western hash business. yes chemicals are chemicals, but they can hold different energy and have different meanings based upon interpretations and the intentions of their usage.
your logic is like saying "words are just words", there is no metaphoric energy behind them. calling a black person a nigger is justifiable becuase it is "just a word", ignoring hundreds of years of slavery and established racism. this sort of logic is an excuse for specialization, for letting "the other" think for you, reducing life itself to something meaningless and inherently un-metaphysical. it's the same sort of logic that confuses people and makes them shoot politicians in arizona.
the smirk at the end of your post staples my point to the bulletin board of this dialogue. you assume your truth to be correct, without analyzing the proposition or the implications that your viewpoint may carry with it.
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Edited by AntiEverything (01/16/11 02:37 PM)
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13796094 - 01/16/11 12:37 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where did you copy and paste this from?
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: RobMarley420]
#13796102 - 01/16/11 12:39 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where did you copy and paste this from?
copied it from the mind file in my skull, clicked and dragged the thought onto the shroomery, and pasted it in the pub. these are my words.
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13796112 - 01/16/11 12:41 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Since when do you use words like "in addendum"???
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13796134 - 01/16/11 12:46 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm actually a fairly literate and intelligent person when you get to know me.
I've known about that word for years and years, and to be honest it is basic and mundane, the first time i heard it was in a debate round my freshman year in high school.
what you think because I love teh lulz, despise your hippie ideologue, and love to be trollinz, you think i can't be deep? maaaan 
Edited by AntiEverything (01/16/11 12:48 PM)
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: 240779]
#13796156 - 01/16/11 12:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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RobMarley420 said:
Where did you copy and paste this from?
If I would have read the thread I could have answered my own question.
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superhigh said:
Hashish by Robert Connell Clarke
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: RobMarley420]
#13796170 - 01/16/11 12:53 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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RobMarley420 said:
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RobMarley420 said:
Where did you copy and paste this from?
If I would have read the thread I could have answered my own question.
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superhigh said:
Hashish by Robert Connell Clarke
never read that book, nor heard of the author in my life (who as well has shady credentials at best), in fact the synopsis on that amazon page opposes my anecdote about the women running through fields. nothing about that book has anything to do with the analysis of the original post. but hey, thanks for staining my thread with your biased assumptions and untruths.
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— Franz Kafka
Edited by AntiEverything (01/16/11 12:56 PM)
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13796189 - 01/16/11 12:57 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Western hash sucks, eastern hash sucks.
BHO is where its at!
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: RobMarley420]
#13796199 - 01/16/11 01:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: RobMarley420]
#13796200 - 01/16/11 01:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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but hey, thanks for staining my thread with your biased assumptions and untruths.(and hijacking the thread with trite nonsense)
but your affirmation that BHO is the best kind of hash grand slams my point right out of the ballpark, and makes my argument a home run. you basically just explained the valley girl mentality and what is wrong with it. how shallow and hollow the very act of smoking it is, and how it affects the user.(and hijacks threads)
good job, did all the allegory for me 
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Edited by AntiEverything (01/16/11 01:02 PM)
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: AntiEverything]
#13796219 - 01/16/11 01:05 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did somebody say hashish???
They've got advanced C02 extractions now too.
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: RobMarley420] 2
#13796228 - 01/16/11 01:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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hash is hash. u are over thinking it
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Re: The symbolic differences between Western Hashish(bubble) and Eastern Hashish(templeball) [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#13796235 - 01/16/11 01:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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rickpsfuckyou said:
hash is hash.
No, there are many different kinds of hash.
BHO is better than Bubble hash is better than pressed kief is better than soap bar hash.
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