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Nexius
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US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months
#13723901 - 01/03/11 11:06 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/the-us-dollar-will-collapse-in-24-months/2886
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The U.S. Dollar Will Collapse in 24 Months Your Only Hope: Owning Gold and Silver By Greg McCoach Friday, December 17th, 2010
Investors have been shuffling currencies around faster than a game of three-card Monte as the true value of world's paper money is being exposed.
But in the end, the only real winners would have walked away from the table long ago, their pockets stuffed with the only currency that really matters: gold.
The consequences of decades of abuse to the system of credit in the United States are coming to a head. And the gray clouds that loom over the skies of the dollar are growing bolder by the day and darker by the minute.
The cold hard fact is I expect the U.S. dollar to ultimately collapse within 24 short months.
This failure will likely push gold prices to over $5,000 an ounce. Meaning that, even at $1,400 an ounce, gold is still dirt cheap.
Every investor should own gold right now as the ultimate store of wealth that will protect hard work and savings.
As the world begins to learn the true nature of the world's funny money, masses of new buyers will come flooding into the gold market. And this surging demand will be the catalyst that launches the price of gold into the stratosphere.
It's pretty simple...
Most investors are unaware, but the gold market is incredibly small.
There have only been about 175,000 tonnes of gold ever mined. That means there is only 0.9 of an ounce of gold for every person on the planet.
That's why they call it precious! Simply owning a single ounce of gold puts you in a much higher global economic class.
When the oceans of fiat money suddenly try to take a part in the gold market, the law of supply and demand will fundamentally force prices much higher.
But don't put all your eggs in the gold basket
While the price of gold will soar and get most of the attention, it's silver that typically outperforms gold, dollar for dollar invested.
In certain instances when gold prices have doubled, the price of silver has outperformed gold by a factor of more than six-to-one!
World Silver Investment Demand ■Investment demand for silver has skyrocketed 522% since 2007. ■World governments are hoarding silver; official sales have plummeted 83% in the past three years. ■Above-ground silver supplies dropped 86% last year. ■Industrial demand for silver has increased over the past decade, despite a 236% increase in prices.
The only problem with silver is that it's not as portable as gold.
You can hold $50,000 worth of gold with your two hands cupped in front of you. You could put that gold into your coat pockets and walk down the street without anybody knowing what you are carrying...
On the other hand, $50,000 worth of silver would take a hand truck to move.
Investors should also consider owning silver for the potential use to buy day-to-day items such as bread and prescriptions drugs, preparing for the time the government declares a “bank holiday” as the crisis in the banking sector exacerbates.
During a bank holiday, checks and credit cards will no longer be accepted as payment for goods and services.
For this reason, I also recommend keeping some cash on hand at all times. I'm not recommending stuffing the mattresses; but it's probably smart to keep a few thousand dollars in 1s, 5s, 10s and 20s around the house.
U.S. Silver Eagles would also be very useful in such an event, as they are considered legal tender in the United States and could be used to purchase groceries.
Why lose sleep?
Ownership of gold and silver will become one of the hottest investments on the planet.
The early adopters — those who wisely purchased their positions before the masses come — will sleep well at night while others fret as they watch the purchasing power of their savings evaporate like water in the Sahara.
Thoughts??
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Nexius]
#13724223 - 01/03/11 12:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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chinas gonna buy all the gold so they can make these
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Nexius]
#13725140 - 01/03/11 04:33 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could probably find an identical article from 24 months ago.
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Most investors are unaware, but the gold market is incredibly small.
Indeed, but "investors" also don't realize that the forex markets are gargantuan. Also, the US Dollar is the most liquid currency. One dollar is nothing more than one point in a global video game, but every developed country holds dollars and US Bonds.
I think people have a fundamental misunderstanding of why the US Dollar is the world's reserve currency and what that term even means. The latest figure says China holds 2.4 TRILLION DOLLARS in their bank accounts in Dollars instead of their own currency. Why? There is probably a perfect correlation between the US deficit and the rise of the Chinese economy. If China decided to simply convert all their forex reserves into gold bullion, it wouldn't be possible. It would take 50 years. The markets have limits, you can't just buy a couple trillion dollars in gold. So in the end it's much easier to buy a couple trillion in US bonds than dig up the equivalent in gold. The people in congress know that if they don't increase the deficit, liquidity will dry up. It might just happen regardless.
I'll buy gold when the gold bugs understand the Triffin Dilemma. By then the fad will have faded.
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I have a stash of plutonium and salts along with multiple different spices and animal skins im going to trade when the money system crashes.
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: The24HourMC]
#13728193 - 01/04/11 09:40 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Nexius]
#13739031 - 01/06/11 03:25 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would it be possible to get a low or no interest loan and turn it into gold just before it inflated, or put in on plastic in time to pay off the debt and still profit?
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Joeker
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Whether the Dollar collapses or not, gold always has been/will be a good investment. That's because, until the day the Human population becomes stagnant or extinct, gold's value will always increase. Why? Supply and demand. Our population grows faster than we can mine gold... and eventually all the gold will be mined... that means the gold:person ratio will continue to get smaller and smaller, and people will always want gold.
Imagine one gold coin and four people, each fighting for it. Now imagine it's 20 years later, there's now eight people, but still only one gold coin. It suddenly has twice the power (value), right?
Back in reality, we can see the evidence to support this.

Ten years ago gold was worth $300 USD. Today it is worth $1,400. That's a 466.67% increase, although since we're comparing it to an elastic currency we have to make the correct adjustments.
$1.00 in 2000 had roughly the same value as $1.27 when 2010 ended. That means, using the 2010 Dollar's value, ten years ago gold was worth $381 USD. In other words, gold only really gained 367.45%, not 466.67%. Now let's look at the world's population.
World POPClock Projection
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According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Census Bureau, the total population of the World, projected to 01/06/11 at 18:46 UTC (EST+5) is
6,891,846,346
The population in 2000 was 6,089,000,000, which means we've grown by 13.19% in ten years, and we will continue to do so. At almost a quarter million (250,000) people being born each day, I only see the demand for gold increasing, since there's no way mining can keep up with that. As the amount of gold on this world per person gets smaller and smaller, it's value will only get bigger and bigger.
As a final note, yes, there's days like today where gold looses value. That's because it's a lot more complicated than I've made it out to be. But you have to look at the bigger picture. It's a lot like poker. There's days, even weeks I come out negative. But that doesn't mean I'm a loosing player. I can't judge my game on 10,000 hands, or even 50,000 hands. I have to look at the bigger picture. I've played millions of hands and overall I'm a winning player; so is gold, and that's not because the Dollar might or might not crash.
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Joeker
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Joeker]
#13741399 - 01/06/11 04:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eh, sorry that was a rant. I'd delete it but I don't see a button. I'm just tired of hearing/reading all this, "The US Dollar is crashing! Hurry, buy gold!" when people should be anyway.
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Joeker]
#13741583 - 01/06/11 04:43 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rants are what message boards thrive on!
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Joeker]
#13747464 - 01/07/11 02:59 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gold has not always been a good investment and I'm not sure it is now. But knock yourself out.
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: zappaisgod]
#13747796 - 01/07/11 03:49 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a little hard to read, but that's 1968-2006. The blue line is the actual price, whereas the red is the adjusted price using 2006's Dollar (like I did with 2010's). Add another four years and it went from $700-$1,400. In 42 years gold has gone from $40 an ounce to $1,400; how is it not a good investment?
Yes, it has swings occasionally, but the general trend is a steady increase. My poker graph looks almost identical to this, we call it variance.
And I already explained the most basic reason why gold's value will only continue to increase, over time, no matter what. It's a safe investment, always and forever. "I'd bet my soul on it."
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Joeker]
#13748264 - 01/07/11 05:19 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't consider the 40 as anything. It was 40 since the 40s because it was decreed by law to be $40. Eliminate the huge spike from '77 to '80 due to the end of it being tied to the dollar. Let's start with 1982 when the price stabilized at around $400. It is now around $1400. Let's look at the Dow. In 1982 it was around 1,000. Right now it's around 12,000. To match gold returns the Dow would be at 3,500. And gold doesn't pay dividends. In fact, you have to pay to store and protect it.
Like I said, knock yourself out. Just warning you. I suspect the panic room cowering nitwits have artificially inflated the price with their chicken little cries about the end of the dollar and all their other bullshit. I've been around awhile and I've heard it all before and they always end up on the wrong end of the dick. Unless they get out in time. Then they were just playin' ya', foo.
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: zappaisgod]
#13748366 - 01/07/11 05:48 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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For the first time, I agree with Zappa. If I had a time machine and went back to 1980 I would buy treasury bonds, not gold. It's not a permanently good investment, remember liquidity is finite.
In the early 80's you could have gotten 10% interest for a 30 year bond. It took gold almost 30 years to break $800 again after the spike in the 80's. And the population probably more than doubled in that time.
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Whatcha think about investing in silver?
Selling off later
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Re: US Dollar *may* crash in 24 months [Re: Nexius]
#13763492 - 01/10/11 03:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bought my first ounce of gold at $242.00 Bought my last ounce at $810.00 Now we're, instead of keeping cash of any kind, we buy silver, from small 10 ounce bars to 1/2 ounce coins. As long as it's purity and weight are stamped into them.
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