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 deCypher
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 Re: The Nazi Return (moved)  [Re: g00ru]
#13719598 - 01/02/11 04:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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DeadHearts
Registered: 07/17/09
Posts: 21,163
Loc: MICHIGAN
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Re: The Nazi Return (moved) [Re: g00ru]
#13719614 - 01/02/11 04:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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guruu said:
please provide your evidence for why that fight is better than any other fight 
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johnm214
Registered: 05/31/07
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Re: The Nazi Return (moved) [Re: deCypher]
#13723545 - 01/03/11 08:11 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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do you have some opinion to share or do you just like to pretend you're in a debate class?
Why did you bring up that issue and make the allegations about my argument that you did if you did not wish to discuss it, and instead fall back on snarky comments?
Does this switch to irrelevancies indicate you've withdrawn the claims you brought up and which I disputed? You are the one who made those allegations, not I. I would prefer you not make comments like this when discussing things with me. It doesn't address the issue and these arguments to the person get people upset, which doesn't help anyone.
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guruu said:
please provide your evidence for why that fight is better than any other fight
He didn't make that claim and hence bears no burden of proof. What he said is that it is a good fight.
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johnm214 said:Ah yes, once more it is alleged that those who don't blindly latch on to various claims made in this forum without some evidence of their veracity must have contrary beliefs that they hold as an alternative. Surely, everyone who doesn't believe my bare assertions must do so because they believe some other dogma rather than because I can't find any argument whatsoever for my position?
You're making my arguments up out of thin air.
Please justify this claim you've made.
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and your general attitude that nothing is true unless you are in possession of irrefutable evidence for it
I have never implied that, nor is it true. I'd like to see you substantiate this claim as well, as I don't believe that's a fair reading of what I've said, nor a reasonable one.
Indisputable proof is a concept which doesn't exist. Proof is always a matter of establishing the claim with particular confidence in the conclusion having exceeded the standard of proof. Your suggestion of my outlook is bizzarre and posits a meaningless standard. The notion of something being proven is of necessity a function of the criterion used to define the standard of proof, and the idea of this being undisputable is as ridiculous as trying to fill your sack with with a mass of one, as a pure number, pound of produce- and for the same reason.
You have more patience than I, sir. Carry on the good fight. 
thx, but I doubt I have more patience than you. Idle boredom and soforth... maybe
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 Grav
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Re: The Nazi Return (moved) [Re: johnm214] 1
#13729123 - 01/04/11 02:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry if i came off snarky, it's just annoying how, in my opinion, you turn every discussion into a courtroom and use overly-technical wordy responses, baiting people into responses and then bringing out the fine print that you never actually made such claims and that they're attacking strawmen, etc. etc.
i believe this exchange started with your claims that this forum is a "sewer of lunacy". i would like to see you prove any significant amount of the subject matter discussed here is a product of lunacy.
there's definitely rampant speculation in this forum, but when you live in an information dictatorship, it's hard to avoid.
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DeadHearts
Registered: 07/17/09
Posts: 21,163
Loc: MICHIGAN
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Re: The Nazi Return (moved) [Re: Grav]
#13729183 - 01/04/11 02:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I more or less agree.
I want to know what how people like John really feel about their government.
What their quarrels are with them and why and such.
It just sounds like so many people are 200% behind the government at all times.
Lashing out at people who question anything.
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Re: The Nazi Return (moved) [Re: DeadHearts]
#13732307 - 01/05/11 12:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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