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 should I fix my current house or build a new one? 
#13688338 - 12/26/10 10:53 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I made a bad decision last year and bought a house that is not in good shape. It was my first house purchase I made on my own and without the help of my dad who is a contractor for the last 30 years.. Needless to say I missed a few good things that should have swayed me away from the purchase.
After returning home from xmas vacation I noticed a smell of mold when entering the house. I looked in the attic and it appears that water has gotten in and most of the rafters are covered with white fuzz/mold.
I am now wondering if it would be cheaper for me to build a new home, buy a RTM, or fix my current home.
I have about $80,000 to work with.
From what I have been seeing online a RTM should cost approx $80 to $110 per square foot. Building my own home should save me lots of labor costs, and should run me approx $30 to $60 per square foot, but take lost of time. Then I also have to worry about where I will live as I build my new place.
What I have not been able to find out is how much it would cost me to repair my current house. I am thinking of hiring a home inspector to see if there is anything else more that needs attention here.
Would anybody have any advice to offer regarding rebuilding or repairing? like what it entails to repair rafters, possible costs, what to look for (hints/tips) or if it would be better to just burn this place down and start new? My father is not able to help me with these decissions, and I am a computer tech, not a carpenter. I need help!!
Thanks!
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13689880 - 12/27/10 10:30 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fix your ventilation problem (ridge vent,clear sofits, add vents, maybe a fan in the attic..
wear a respirator
Get a pump sprayer and some bleach and a scrub brush,. after washing and drying thoroughly, paint with something like kilz oil base primer. you could add a fungicide/mildicide to the paint as well, although if you fix the ventilation problem you should be good to go without it.
problem solved.
White mold is not the worst kind you could encounter, and this should solve the problem, if done correctly..
and relatively cheaply as well
Edited by Ozzy (12/27/10 11:13 AM)
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13689884 - 12/27/10 10:33 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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well if you have a good foundation it will obviously be cheaper to repair rather than build a whole new home, plus this fixes your where to live question, start one room at a time, bust out one wall and build it back up, altho you could end up busting out a wall and having the whole thing fall on you but shit happens right? Also you can sneak away with repairs, but if you build a home there's all sorts of permits and shit you'll need, plumbers, electritions, and in some states you have to use licenced handymen or w/e they are called which is there way of stomping the fuck out of the little man and freelancers.
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#13696123 - 12/28/10 03:43 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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What the fuck is an RTM and where on earth did you get those sq ft numbers?
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: zappaisgod]
#13697476 - 12/28/10 08:36 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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RTM is Ready to move house.
I got the price quote numbers from calling a couple of companies who specialize in RTM homes and some local contractors. The prices will change depending on what options you get with your house. ie, if you order your house with hardwood floors instead of carpet it would cost more, same with oak cabinets instead of particle board. etc.
I got into my attic and got a good look. The problem seems to have come from the air vent in the bathroom. Condensation has built up water around the rafters causing that wood to rot. This warm weather lately I guess got things smelling more than normal.
I got some bleach water and cleaned the wood, then applied mold-away mold removing and preventing treatment. fixed up my vent and it should be good now.
Xmas season has been getting to me and I started to freak over my house lol. However it has inspired me to redesign my whole house layout. I think I will appreciate a new look in here, and to be confident of how it was put together would be a good feeling.
I may even make a pictorial just for the hell of it.
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13699070 - 12/29/10 02:28 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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well id suggest getting all your attic work done early spring so you dont have to screw around in there with hot weather and black widows
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#13699734 - 12/29/10 10:08 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its actually winter out here now! we are having way warmer weather than the norm this year. It was +8 yesterday when typical climate average is -15. That could explain the condensation building up around the poorly insulated bathroom fan. I think at least..
Its back to -10 today.
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13758175 - 01/09/11 05:26 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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+1 on geting f*cked by the tax man. If theres anyway to stay in that house it's prolly your best bet. Stay away from rtm houses. I'm living in one that was built in the 90s while i finish my place, and it's already junk. Anywhere where you get cold weather and snow I'd stay away from something built in a factory on a friday... You'd be amazed the shit they can cover up with that flowery paneling.
It's not a bad idea to get the home inspected. They can provide you with a healthy list of shit thats wrong, and then you can tackle those in order of priority, and they'll provide you with information about what's code, so you'll know how far you have to go to get it up to snuff.
Good luck, houses are damn near like boats sometimes..
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13767752 - 01/11/11 10:38 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
FlusH said:
RTM is Ready to move house.
I got the price quote numbers from calling a couple of companies who specialize in RTM homes and some local contractors.
you're talking about a mobile home regardless of how they choose to define
it, at $80/sq foot mine would have cost $176,000 which is about four times
what I actually paid, mine was $43k, with the move and setup it was $47k
for 2200/sq feet, the most expensive I saw was around $120k for a smaller
one, $110 for one just a little larger and built as a 2 story
the problem with manufactured housing is that it will never appreciate
in value, it will in 25-30 years be something you'll be paying to have
dragged away
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13768119 - 01/11/11 12:58 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hear ya with the mobile home thought, but ready to move homes in Canada are built to a way higher standard than in the US. Some RTM's are built very nice, and you would not be able to tell the difference of a house built on site. The thing I don't like is that the house would get stress put on it during the move, but I would not get it moved completely finished. I would do the drywall, floors, painting, assembling cabinets after the house would be delivered.
BUT, after doing all that work anyways, and after calculating costs it is cheaper for me to rebuild the house I am living in now.
I did get an inspector to look my house over. My attic needs work, and after that is done the house is completely up to code.
After I fix up the attic I can then also start moving walls and changing the layout. This project is also helping me get a better relationship with my dad, and while he cannot actually do the work I am learning a shitload fast.
After I gut and redo the inside of my house, I will be putting on a single attached garage, large all season sunroom, large storage closet and extra bedroom to the house. I can do this all for WAY cheaper than a RTM house, and I will be doing most of the work, but it will be worth in in the end.
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13768138 - 01/11/11 01:02 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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.. also remember that the lumber cost's here in canada are insanely higher than the US. That has a lot to do with the value of houses up here.
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13768373 - 01/11/11 01:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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here in the south you can get 2x6 walls with r-19 insulation, it's pretty
common, in these mobile homes, you can have insulated low-e glass and r30
ceilings, built to the same standards as canadian homes because we also
look at the cooling bills since it can get to 120F in some areas of the US
not like the 90F heatwaves canada gets
as for the cost of lumber, a single 8' 2x4 stud is up to $4 in Ga, it;s
often fir from Canada or the PNW if you're going to try and convince me
that it's $16 for the same stick in canada you'll be working awfully hard
on that one
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13771645 - 01/11/11 11:22 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol, I am not worried about trying to convince you the price of lumber is cheaper in the states, I know it is. Weird too, since the lumber is exported from Canada, you would think it is cheaper for us up here, but its not.
I am having a hell of a time trying to find price list's online to prove this fact, but I just have to reference local contractors both here in mantiboa and north dakota. Here at home depot by my house its $8.50 for a 8' 2x4 piece of fir from Canada, $5.50 if you get it at a private lumbermart, and $4.25 at the lumbermart in Nichie ND (price is close after exchange). I just paid $15 for a 3/4"x10"x48" piece of knotty pine I am using for another project. Its pricey up here.
Believe me, I have been tempted a few times to help myself to some trucker's flat bed that's parked out side of town bound for USA filled with lumber..
From what I have seen, 2x4 stud's are what is code here in canada, and r28 for exterior walls, and r40 for attic insulation. and it get's up to +42 Celcius here in manitoba too (102F), it just usually lasts for about two to three weeks then gets colder. -45C (-49F) is not uncommon in winter time too
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13771673 - 01/11/11 11:28 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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how is it even possible for it to be 102F for 3 weeks in canada, wouldn't you all just melt and drown
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#13771705 - 01/11/11 11:32 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hahaha, yea, our sled dogs start to stink up like an armpit too for those three weeks as well.
But for real, the humidity during the hot season can get a bit crazy too. best 3 weeks all year imo, better than the 4/5 months of winter we also get
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Re: should I fix my current house or build a new one? [Re: FlusH]
#13776702 - 01/12/11 09:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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tough spot, valuable lesson also. i would suggest to just put in the work needed to bring you current domicile up to par.
building a house is a difficult job, specially when fiscal needs are already strained. in according its alot of work; when i was a youngone putting up a barn seemed like a complete ordeal.
hope it works on out for you, good luck.
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