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 “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air 
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In short, the series of inconsistencies with the re-airing and promotion for “Police State” posted by We Are Change and Federal Jack (below) is all true, and more. The episode was de-listed from TruTV’s website, bonus clips associated with the episode were removed from the website, its encore airings were canceled and it was not played during the recent Conspiracy Theory marathon. Alex cannot elaborate further without compromising his sources, but you have heard people associated with the show discussing on the radio how certain unnamed powerful people did not want this impactful episode to air, how shadowy figures have been caught rummaging through the trash of producers for the show, and beyond.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: DeadHearts]
#13583964 - 12/05/10 01:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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If this is true then they're fucking idiots. You have a theory with no evidence worth a damn to support it, and with pretty much no respectable supporters able to convince your average person, and you hand them a bonafide act of represion indicating their knowledge and concern over the 'expose'.
Is there any evidence this happened? Who pressured them?
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: johnm214]
#13584321 - 12/05/10 04:18 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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johnm214 said:
You have a theory with no evidence worth a damn to support it
What do you mean no evidence?
Everything's documented.
I even remember the name of one of the bills supporting it. HR645.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: tha_doctor]
#13584508 - 12/05/10 06:56 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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If your going to cite some bill, you're going to need to be a little more specific as to what you're claiming and where to find it then that.
I thought I saw the original poster talk about Fema deathcamps and shit, maybe I presumed it from the youtube thumbnails. Anyways, given that the original poster seemed to not describe the show's claims at all, I can't back up what I said.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: johnm214]
#13584532 - 12/05/10 07:11 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude, just watch the episode.
I got better things to do then watch it again (when you can) so you know quotes from the bill.
The episode isn't ambiguous at all. Everything is laid out nicely and supported with evidence. Not to mention it all makes sense. Esspecially when you look at history since it is repeating itself. By history I mean history were tyrants were ruling.
Methods of population control used since Ceasars' time are still being used today...
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: DeadHearts]
#13584556 - 12/05/10 07:34 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've just been fear-mongered. 
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Adamist]
#13584596 - 12/05/10 08:24 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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According to the text of the proposed bill HR 645, the purpose of the National Emergency Centers is "to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster."
Three additional purposes are specified in the text of the proposed legislation:
* To provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of federal, state and local first responders;
* To provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response and recovery efforts of government, private, not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations;
* To meet other appropriate needs, as defined by the secretary of homeland security.
The broad specifications of the bill's language, however, contribute to concern that the "national emergency" purpose could be utilized by the secretary of homeland security to include any kind of situation the government wants to contain or otherwise control.
Rep. Hastings created controversy during the 2008 presidential campaign with his provocative comments concerning Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
"If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention,"Hastings said, as reported by ABC News. "Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through."
H.R. 645, which seeks to allocate $360 million for developing the emergency centers, has been referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure and to the Committee on Armed Services.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: DeadHearts]
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: DeadHearts]
#13584646 - 12/05/10 09:03 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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we are basically one major lie away
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: johnm214]
#13584743 - 12/05/10 09:51 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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> You have a theory with no evidence worth a damn to support it,
But Alex said, therefore it is true! I saw it on youtube!
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Seuss]
#13584766 - 12/05/10 09:58 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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i love how it goes from no evidence, to no evidence worth a damn. the next logical step should be "yeah there's an rfid chip in my mandatory i.d card, but.... ehh i'm still not convinced." hindsight is 20/20 and this situation is not one you want to be looking back on regretting how pompous and naive you were.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Olympus Mons]
#13584858 - 12/05/10 10:40 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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let's discuss evidence on this subject, where is it?
Luckily I didnt have to wait long to get to the mega twattery of alex
jones with this coffin bullshit, what evidence does Ventura and Jones have
that these alleged coffins are being used for FEMA death camps?
and dont pull the 'watch the video' bullshit because I already know the
answer as I've talked with Vantage Products already and dont a lot of
checking a few years ago when Jones 'broke' this story
the chick, Cathryn Blythe who says that an agency in her state has
declared her a threat, guess what, under Obamas rule we've ALL been
declared a threat if we own a firearm or oppose issues that the
democrats support like illegal immigration and tax reform
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13584985 - 12/05/10 11:22 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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is this yet another example of the conspiracies that some folks will make
up because they forgot to set record on their TIVO and they missed the episode
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13585057 - 12/05/10 11:46 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
let's discuss evidence on this subject, where is it?
Luckily I didnt have to wait long to get to the mega twattery of alex
jones with this coffin bullshit, what evidence does Ventura and Jones have
that these alleged coffins are being used for FEMA death camps?
and dont pull the 'watch the video' bullshit because I already know the
answer as I've talked with Vantage Products already and dont a lot of
checking a few years ago when Jones 'broke' this story
the chick, Cathryn Blythe who says that an agency in her state has
declared her a threat, guess what, under Obamas rule we've ALL been
declared a threat if we own a firearm or oppose issues that the
democrats support like illegal immigration and tax reform
I get it dude youre a racist republican enough already. If you didnt think we were in a police state before obama youre incorrect. you rarely have a conversation without mentioning obama or hippies/liberals/democrats it's all bullshit. This entire system is set up just like the NFL, its a big SHOW all for money. They trickle out little bits and pieces of their agenda after conditioning us with media bullshit.
You want evidence of a police state?
Form a militia
Fly to yemen and back
Get a ron paul bumper sticker
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13585082 - 12/05/10 11:53 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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RP of Pennsylvania Jim Gerlach who Co-sponsored Bill HR645 declined interview
with Ventura twice.
Congressmen Steve Cohen of Tennessee Also a Co-sponsor of the Bill HR645
agreed to talk about the bill.
Ventura: Why would we be building these FEMA camps all over the country? For
what purpose?
Cohen: Well we wouldnt be because the dont exist. Ah its just a figment of some
people who have concerns about ah maybe Martians or other creatures coming down
to infiltrate our society thinking there are such camps.
Ventura: (interrupts) So there are no such things? So then why is it in a bill
(in which he is a co-sponsor) Its in a bill and there are no such things in America?
Cohen: No there arent.
Ventura: What was the place I saw in Texas? It was called a residential center?
It had two 20 foot high fences around it. When I knocked on the door it was locked.
When people came to the door, No comment was the answer I got out of any question.
And what disturbed me the most about this place was that in the back it was like a
daycare. Slides and swings for children and I asked do you keep children in this
place? No comment. Have you ever kept children in this place? No comment.
Cohen: I havent been there. Maybe there immature people
Ventura: You are telling me there is not one FEMA camp in the united states right
now?
Cohen: There are not.
Ventura: Then why is it in that Bill? (HR645)
Cohen: What Bill? I would have to see the Bill. (Is he not a Co-sponsor?)
Ventura: Six FEMA camps in the United States. How can a Bill states there is six
FEMA camps in the United States and now Im being told there are none?
Cohen: (Looks to sky) Well I think, I think I recall now something about this.
And if Im corrent thos are locations in which there is a disaster like a Katrina.
I think thats what it is. Its not any type of concentration camp (which was never
said) to round up citizens.
Ventura: So these people are free to come and go as they please? It wont be locked?
Because the place I saw in Texas is locked down. You cannot go in and out of it.
Cohen: Ah its probably not being used either.
Ventura: We have film of children playing on the swings and slides and stuff.
And this one technically falls under Homeland Security.
Cohen: Well I dont know I havent been there and I dont know who the children are
but Im sure they are probably really happy. They are probably children of
the people that manage the place. But they are not people who have been taken there by some green monsters in machines
Ventura: I have fear of my government not green monsters in machines.
I dont trust anyone of these fucking people "RUNNING" this country. I mean are you
fucking kidding me?? This Fucing congressmen was on film saying this shit.
Its absolute madness.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: DeadHearts]
#13585105 - 12/05/10 11:58 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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after seeing this:
and watching that interview, some alarm bells went off in my head, especially about the green monsters in machines schtick.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Olympus Mons]
#13585151 - 12/05/10 12:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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let's discuss evidence on this subject, where is it?
Luckily I didnt have to wait
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Olympus Mons said:
I get it dude youre a racist republican enough already. If you didnt think we were in a police state before obama youre incorrect. you rarely have a conversation without mentioning obama or hippies/liberals/democrats it's all bullshit.
let's try discussing the topic and not myself, firstly it was memos released by homeland security under the Obama Administration that declared gun owners and anti illegal immigration advocates as people that were potential threats, using your statement, yuo're part of this conspiracy and it's obvious you arent even aware that you're the dupe
you've made it painfully obvious with that statement that the truth has no place in this discussion in your opinion so let's interject a little more of that vile word you hate so much
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-memo-how-to-spot-a-right-wing-radical/
http://volokh.com/posts/1239922107.shtml
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/17/opinion/ed-extremism17
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-04-19-homeland-memo_N.htm
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This entire system is set up just like the NFL, its a big SHOW all for money. They trickle out little bits and pieces of their agenda after conditioning us with media bullshit.
if the government were trying to round up subversives in concentration
camps then why would they leak the information, to give people fair
warning to change their ways? the statement makes no sens from the start
and as it progresses it makes even less sense
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You want evidence of a police state?
Form a militia
Fly to yemen and back
Get a ron paul bumper sticker
how is any of that crap evidence of anything
there's loads of militias, I have a friend that flies back and forth to
Iran and other islamic nations every few months, he's Iranian, under the
Shah he was Deemed a criminal, he served in the Iranian army (Takavar)
under the Ayatollah and he has no issues entering the country even when
he's stuffed his pockets with herbs he's bringing back (he's funny as
hell and loves screwing with customs)
please, show us how any of that crap is any kind of evidence
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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: DeadHearts]
#13585172 - 12/05/10 12:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
DeadHearts said:
RP of Pennsylvania Jim Gerlach who Co-sponsored Bill HR645 declined interview
with Ventura twice.
and this is supposed to mean what?
did you read the full text of the bill? it's far less ominous than you seem to be portraying
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
as for the transcript, if Ventura wants to expose the conspiracy is he
willing to release the full unedited version of the interviews?
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I dont trust anyone of these fucking people "RUNNING" this country. I mean are you
fucking kidding me?? This Fucing congressmen was on film saying this shit.
Its absolute madness.
ok, so you dont trust the politicians but why trust Ventura or Jones,
jones is well known for being wrong on so many subjects, these fema
camps included, I've been to 3 of the locations listed, Fort McPhereson,
Ft. Benning and the Oak Ridge National Laboratories facility
McPhereson doesnt even have anything remotely close to room to house
subversives so unless they plan on forcing everyone to sleep on the lawn
on a base that has no more than a chain link fence and a few guard
shacks then I'm completely lost as to where they're getting their info
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13585178 - 12/05/10 12:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
let's discuss evidence on this subject, where is it?
Luckily I didnt have to wait
Quote:
Olympus Mons said:
I get it dude youre a racist republican enough already. If you didnt think we were in a police state before obama youre incorrect. you rarely have a conversation without mentioning obama or hippies/liberals/democrats it's all bullshit.
let's try discussing the topic and not myself, firstly it was memos released by homeland security under the Obama Administration that declared gun owners and anti illegal immigration advocates as people that were potential threats, using your statement, yuo're part of this conspiracy and it's obvious you arent even aware that you're the dupe
you've made it painfully obvious with that statement that the truth has no place in this discussion in your opinion so let's interject a little more of that vile word you hate so much
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-memo-how-to-spot-a-right-wing-radical/
http://volokh.com/posts/1239922107.shtml
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/17/opinion/ed-extremism17
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-04-19-homeland-memo_N.htm
Quote:
This entire system is set up just like the NFL, its a big SHOW all for money. They trickle out little bits and pieces of their agenda after conditioning us with media bullshit.
if the government were trying to round up subversives in concentration
camps then why would they leak the information, to give people fair
warning to change their ways? the statement makes no sens from the start
and as it progresses it makes even less sense
Quote:
You want evidence of a police state?
Form a militia
Fly to yemen and back
Get a ron paul bumper sticker
how is any of that crap evidence of anything
there's loads of militias, I have a friend that flies back and forth to
Iran and other islamic nations every few months, he's Iranian, under the
Shah he was Deemed a criminal, he served in the Iranian army (Takavar)
under the Ayatollah and he has no issues entering the country even when
he's stuffed his pockets with herbs he's bringing back (he's funny as
hell and loves screwing with customs)
please, show us how any of that crap is any kind of evidence
is that what i did? you expect me to have a rational conversation with an admitted racist who is constantly talking about how obama's done him wrong? youre a prime example of someone who cant see the forest for the trees. the closest thing to truth is furthest from politics.
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Re: “Police State” episode of hit Ventura show covering FEMA camps pulled from air [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13585191 - 12/05/10 12:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
DeadHearts said:
RP of Pennsylvania Jim Gerlach who Co-sponsored Bill HR645 declined interview
with Ventura twice.
and this is supposed to mean what?
did you read the full text of the bill? it's far less ominous than you seem to be portraying
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
as for the transcript, if Ventura wants to expose the conspiracy is he
willing to release the full unedited version of the interviews?
Quote:
I dont trust anyone of these fucking people "RUNNING" this country. I mean are you
fucking kidding me?? This Fucing congressmen was on film saying this shit.
Its absolute madness.
ok, so you dont trust the politicians but why trust Ventura or Jones,
jones is well known for being wrong on so many subjects, these fema
camps included, I've been to 3 of the locations listed, Fort McPhereson,
Ft. Benning and the Oak Ridge National Laboratories facility
McPhereson doesnt even have anything remotely close to room to house
subversives so unless they plan on forcing everyone to sleep on the lawn
on a base that has no more than a chain link fence and a few guard
shacks then I'm completely lost as to where they're getting their info
The declined interview is not supposed to mean shit.
I do not trust alex jones or ventura but I do not doubt what they claim.
A lot of it truly makes sense to me judging on how FED GOV takes care of
their business.
No comment on what the congressmen said??
And by the way....
"if the government were trying to round up subversives in concentration
camps then why would they leak the information, to give people fair
warning to change their ways? the statement makes no sens from the start
and as it progresses it makes even less sense"
Shit happens. A good examples on how things can get leaked is of course wikileaks.
And look how our dear old government is handling that right now??
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