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#13549499 - 11/27/10 08:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13543775/gonew/1#UNREAD
Check out the short Video from Mr. Mushrooms at the end of the page. Enjoy!
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u think thats death your anxious about?
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Icelander
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I imagine you'll be posting a lot here now that you've been banned in the philosophy forum.
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jivJaN
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u think thats death your anxious about?
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: For Circastes [Re: jivJaN]
#13553594 - 11/28/10 07:13 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13543775/gonew/1#UNREAD
I suggest continuing on with the two other vids which Mr. Mushrooms has now posted.
I'm open to any rebuttal of what to vids are saying.
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I don't really find the video that impressive. He basically just restates the same thing for 7 minutes. That the physical act of observation has to effect what is being observed. He mentions how work is being do to produce an explanation as to how the act of observation is producing the given results.. but so what the bottom line is there is still no explanation. It could still be consciousness.
Mind you I only watched the first video. Does he even mention any possible explanations as to how the act of observation creates the given results?
Nothing in this video proves it's not consciousness causing the results of the experiment. He says idea that it is concept has turned up "drought" but so has the mechanistic explaination.
Also He mentions,
"even if consciousness was the agent all of these theories had the operation of this consciousness operated by very strict external mathamatical laws."
This does not work contrary to my own theory that the world is perception and the laws in the universe are ultimately laws of perception.
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I watched about 3 minutes of the first video and realised this guy is so far behind me all I can give him in return is a nasal laugh, and a quiet, endorphin-releasing one at that.
It's obvious to me, every moment of my 'existence', that consciousness is doing everything. The debates going on are on the brink of ridiculous or even retarded, if you ask me. All I appreciate are the good intentions.
I was banned from the philosophy forum? LOL. I think I was either being strange or retarded most of the time, anyway. Saw that coming, surprised it wasn't sooner.
That forum is full of retards. This forum is not, hence why I still come here, and, I hope, give some good advice and ideas for your brains to chug down. Yet, some of them have been stupid at times.
In the future, my posts will be infinitely less stupid. So don't anyone worry.
I reiterate that all you need to do is come off it to realise you're creating everything.
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All laws are mind-created and can be broken.
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Icelander said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13543775/gonew/1#UNREAD
Check out the short Video from Mr. Mushrooms at the end of the page. Enjoy!
How exactly can this claim be made? If observing changes what is observed, then that observation is in some way altered as well. AKA he would be using what he demonizes, the fantasy of a passive observer.
I also wonder what a passive observer would look like. I mean, can we observe the observer? If so, how? Assuming that change is due to the observer seems a little silly to me because then what is observing the change? Perhaps the observer is simply encountering change and then wanting to take ownership for it.
Edited by Kickle (11/29/10 10:48 AM)
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I watched about 3 minutes of the first video and realised this guy is so far behind me all I can give him in return is a nasal laugh, and a quiet, endorphin-releasing one at that.
It's obvious to me, every moment of my 'existence', that consciousness is doing everything. The debates going on are on the brink of ridiculous or even retarded, if you ask me. All I appreciate are the good intentions.
I was banned from the philosophy forum? LOL. I think I was either being strange or retarded most of the time, anyway. Saw that coming, surprised it wasn't sooner.
That forum is full of retards. This forum is not, hence why I still come here, and, I hope, give some good advice and ideas for your brains to chug down. Yet, some of them have been stupid at times.
In the future, my posts will be infinitely less stupid. So don't anyone worry.
I reiterate that all you need to do is come off it to realise you're creating everything.
Nice flaming response. I'm sure it's because you're so conscious. 
It figures you wouldn't watch the whole vid once you didn't like what he was saying.
The important thing here for me was at min( 2.35 to 4.53.) No claims can be made that quantum physics is proving that we create our own reality or that everything is consciousness.
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“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”
― Robert Anton Wilson
Edited by Icelander (11/29/10 02:21 PM)
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circastes
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Projections, projections!
I can tell you all about those.
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That forum is full of retards.
How is this statement not a flame? How is it a projection on my part?
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Well you know I shouldn't say they're retarded, but they're spinning their wheels with the questions they ask.
You're projecting, because you're approaching my posts with an idea about who I am already in your mind, and interpreting everything I say through that idea. But that idea is actually a part of you, not me. So you're projecting yourself on to me.
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Maybe you shouldn't say it but that's the things you do say.
Based on what you said everything is a projection and that's true enough. Still based on what you said there my projection is likely a very accurate one.
Just because you think people are spinning their wheels or are retarded doesn't make it so. That may just be a projection on your part.
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“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”
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I reiterate that all you need to do is come off it to realise you're creating everything.
OK, I'll bite. Suppose I am creating everything. Then how come I can't create a couple supermodels and a sports car in front of my apt right now?
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Re: For Circastes [Re: deCypher]
#13562182 - 11/30/10 12:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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cause you aren't believing hard enough
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: For Circastes [Re: jivJaN]
#13562523 - 11/30/10 01:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol
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