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 MiRrOr
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 THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! 
#13506587 - 11/18/10 09:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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1st off, let me say its been maybe one or two years since i've been to this forum, FEELS GOOD TO BE BACK!!! : D
here's whats up. basically, i have never tried DMT, but have REALLY REALLY always wanted to. not just to see the pretty colors. ok, who am i kidding, thats exactly why i want to do it!!! lol. no but seriously, i feel like exploring the pineal gland and really blasting off into the dmt realm, a realm that i, at the moment, cannot even comprehend.
with that said, i've looked at all the extraction teks, and they all used chemicals, and lighter fluid, and chemicals that can blind you if you arent careful. not cool.
but alas, i stumbled upon a tek that is totally free of all of that stuff. its known as THE POOR MANS EXTRACTION.
i'm going to copy and paste it exactly as it was written, but in CAPS, I WILL POST MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH STEP AS WE GO ALONG.
I NEED YOUR GUYS HELP!!! I NEED THIS TO WORK!!!
here we go...
Keep in mind this is not the advanced clandestine chemists ideal method of extracting dmt, however, this method will prove invaluable to the person who finds him/herself in a position of not being able to procure solvents or chemicals that the ideal methods would call for. Also it will no doubt be a valuable tool to those who want a completely food safe extration. Lastly those who are new to this field who feel unsure about using or even attempting to procure chemicals such as naptha or lye.
The real beauty of this tek is that you probably already have everything you need to extract either freebase or a salt of DMT. If not, you can buy everything you need at your local dollar store, or corner grocery store. This tek although making use of sometimes even the fattiest and crudest solvents , yeilds a 100% fat and oil free product. You will pull beautiful white xtals. This tek IS workable and almost impossible to screw up by even the most chemistry naive extractor.
Although somewhat lacking in exact amounts, volumes and measurements ... it should give a strong enough general overview to carry anyone through.
Here it is... starting with what you'll need...
Baking soda
90% Rubbing (Isopropyl) Alcohol, or Ethyl Alcohol, or Acetone, (Methyl works but voids the food safe aspect, however it is completely safe if evapped completely.) Less than 90% will work but will result in small amounts of baking soda being in the end product. This is completely harmless and can be cleaned by repeating the process a few times.) Acetone is prefferable here
Any Type of Vegetable Oil, Canola Oil, Sunflower Oil, Peanut Oil etc... (hell even lard would work here if kept hot)
Some type of acid, Lemon juice, Vinegar, Vitamin C ... etc...
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Mix 1 gram of baking soda for every gram of powdered root bark you have in a large glass or metal pan (metal is fine here), add enough water to cover the bark and baking soda mixture + an extra inch or so.
(QUESTION #1 --- MAYBE I'M A TAD SLOW, BUT WHAT EXACTLY IS MEANT BY "A LARGE GLASS OR METAL PAN"? A FRYING PAN? A POT?)
For every 50 grams of bark used, add 1/2 cup of your vegetable oil to this mix. now set this mixture on low heat and bring up the temperature until it is hot , and steams when stirred. This mixture should be kept HOT but should not boil. Once it is hot , maintain the hot temperature for 1 hour. During that hour, the mixture should be well but very gently stirred every few minutes.
(QUESTION #2 - I ASSUME THIS BARK SHOULD BE BOUGHT IN ITS POWDERED FORM? CORRECT? ALSO, HOW MANY GRAMS OF BARK SHOULD I USE TO YEILD A DECENT AMOUNT OF DOSES? 50? 100?)
Now mix up some acidic water. For every gallon of water add 1.5 cups of vinegar or 1 cup lemon juice per gallon and measure out an equal amount of this acidic water for the amount of oil that you have. (If you have 2.5 cups oil , you'll need 2.5 cups acidic water, a little more wont hurt, but probably wont help either.
(QUESTION #3 --- OK, SO LETS ASSUME WE USE 100 GRAMS OF BARK. THAT WOULD MEAN WE USED ONE CUP OF THE VEGETABLE OIL. WHICH MEANS, WE'D NEED ONE CUP OF ACIDIC WATER. SO, I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW MANY GALLONS OF WATER, OR VINEGAR I NEED. THIS STEP CONFUSES ME.
When atleast an hour has passed (two cant really hurt) then use something like a turkey baster/dropper type device to remove the oil and add it to your acidified water. Stir gently for several minutes. The goodies will attach to the acid in the water forming that particular salt, migrating to the water... leaving the oil on top containing only the oils and fats.
The oil after several minutes of mixing with the acidic water is removed and added back to the original basic bark mixture. This process is repeated a total of three times, each time using the same oil.. and each time "steeping" for an hour or so. also each time the oil is removed fresh acidic water is used and at the end combined.
(QUESTION #4 --- ??)
(If a salt of dmt is desired , say for oral use, then at this point .. after the oil is removed the water is allowed to evaporate and the remaining material washed with acetone to yeild beautiful salted dmt crystals)
If Freebase DMT is the goal, then at this point the acidic water is made basic by adding baking soda. I'd say about a half a cup for every two cups acidic water you have should do it.
The water is now evaporated. This proccess is slow and requires a slight bit of patience if you are doing a larger extraction. Use a small fan and apply low heat to speed up the evaporation proccess. Now at this point you will be left with freebase dmt and baking soda. This material is scraped up and placed into a small dish.
Here one must retrieve the freebase dmt from the baking soda. There are several ways of doing this. Acetone is here prefferable however most people don't have acetone handy. Instead, we can use high proof alcohol. 90% Isopropyl (rubbing alcohol) will do great here and is available at your local walmart. 70 % can be used but keep in mind that the 30 % water present will carry over a good amount of baking soda. This ofcourse is completely harmless but ofcourse undesirable. This can somewhat be remedied by repeating the washes with alcohol.
Anyways... you have to completely dissolve the powder in acetone, rubbing alcohol or high proof whiskey (anything other than everclear will leave a taste) The baking soda will be left behind, and at this point your goodies are dissolved in the acetone or whatever solvent you used here. So collect the liquid , careful to leave the baking soda pwder behind. Rinse this powder three times and combine the liquid from all three rinses.
Use a small fan to quickly evap the solvent to leave behind beautifully white (if a good solvent was used at the end) dmt crystals. The only impurities that could be present AT ALL is a small amount of baking soda. The weaker your alcohol (if used instead of acetone) the more baking soda will be pulled along with the dmt. Harmless but indeed, undesirable. 90% rubbing alcohol from wal-mart or the dollar store (at least in the states) will do just fine.
The purity of the end product can be improved by redissolving in solvent and leaving behind anything insoluble, and re-evaporating to leave behind purer crystals.
Like it was previously stated, this certainly is not the "Best" method for extracting dmt however it DOES work. This now makes it possible for many people who previously would not attempt an extraction for several reasons to now do so. Thanks to those who inspired me to write this up, you know who you are! Peace and Godspeed!
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I'M STILL CONFUSED. THE TEK SEEMS ALOT EASIER THAN THE CHEMICAL TEK, BUT THE INSTRUCTIONS ARENT EXACTLY DETAILED OR VERY DESCRIPTIVE.
OR MAYBE THEY ARE AND I'M ENTIRELY TOO STONED TO UNDERSTAND.
EITHER WAY, PLEASE HELP!!!
SOMEONE TRANSLATE THIS TO THE MOST SIMPLISTIC DIRECTIONS POSSIBLE!!!
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MiRrOr
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 Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: MiRrOr]
#13507386 - 11/19/10 01:05 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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let's try to stay on the topic at hand...
but, very cool that you could help him/her out with the lye situation...
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scienceguy
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: MiRrOr]
#13507416 - 11/19/10 01:17 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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If you want to do a food-grade extraction, you can, but you have to use calcium hydroxide (available as pickling lime) as your base and d-limonene (orange oil) as your solvent. It's not as selective in pulling the DMT versus other alkaloids, but a lot of people like jungle spice, especially in changa. After doing the food grade extraction, you could always take some of the finished product and do a heptane/hexane recrystal if you wanted to have some n,n-DMT to try by itself.
I don't know if taking the bargain basement shortcut path is the right way to get to the DMT temple. Just sayin...
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 monkiman
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: scienceguy]
#13507440 - 11/19/10 01:26 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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we where just talking about this , so the op's tek would be inferior to the d-limonene tek which can also be used on cactus to make mescaline acetate?
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scienceguy
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: monkiman]
#13507921 - 11/19/10 06:28 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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The d-limonene tek for DMT is a little different than the one for mescaline, as mescaline needs to be precipitated out of basified water with an acid and converted to a salt of some sort. DMT you keep in its freebase form, and actually separate from the solvent itself.
Basically the food grade DMT extraction is done the same way as an STB extraction, just replacing lye with calcium hydroxide, and naptha or heptane as your non-polar solvent.
Most people don't do a food grade extraction of DMT, but have pretty good (and clean) results using good quality lye and solvents.
Monkiman... this is the tek I was talking about that most people seem to have great luck with.
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steadyheady
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: scienceguy]
#13511272 - 11/19/10 06:35 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
scienceguy said:
The d-limonene tek for DMT is a little different than the one for mescaline, as mescaline needs to be precipitated out of basified water with an acid and converted to a salt of some sort. DMT you keep in its freebase form, and actually separate from the solvent itself.
Basically the food grade DMT extraction is done the same way as an STB extraction, just replacing lye with calcium hydroxide, and naptha or heptane as your non-polar solvent.
Most people don't do a food grade extraction of DMT, but have pretty good (and clean) results using good quality lye and solvents.
Monkiman... this is the tek I was talking about that most people seem to have great luck with.
I disagree, the STB tek done with pre-powdered bark(which I believe to be more easy to deal with) precipitates a brown ooze with the crystals.
The Super Simple A/B Extraction is the best I think, its not food grade, but I get completely white crystals with about a .9 ratio bark to crystal, and I can finish a batch in about 7 hours. And you don't have to fuck around with lye.
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: steadyheady]
#13511289 - 11/19/10 06:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I'll give it a whirl. I've never had an issue with powdered bark using STB, the trick is to double the amount of basified water.
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FrenchMachine
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: MiRrOr]
#16281408 - 05/24/12 10:06 PM (2 days, 5 hours ago) |
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Has anyone here used this TEK? Does this actually work?
I hate chemicals and am not good with chemistry (AT ALL) but am considering trying this out since I have so much extra bark.
Anyone?
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FrenchMachine
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Re: THE "NON CHEMICAL, EASY" (POOR MANS) DMT EXTRACTION TEK!!! STILL NEED HELP!!!! [Re: FrenchMachine]
#16281421 - 05/24/12 10:12 PM (2 days, 4 hours ago) |
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ok nevermind...just found the original post of this TEK. I'll check the Nexus for more info.
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