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justinsanity said:
Any good experiences from it?

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candidguy said:
I recommend valerian root+melatonin+lavender oil+brainwave generator combination.

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Sounds like a guaranteed crazy dream. I have some comfortable studio headphones that I wouldn't mind wearing to sleep. Can you recommend any links to a generator or a cd.

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pirateseatsouls said:
Ok. I bought a fat bottle of melatonin a few months ago. I'd take a few every couple days.
Over the weeks, I'd take more and more every day.
One day, I had 33 left, and I popped all of them at like noon. I wasn't even tired.
I, personally, think that melatonin is BS.
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I wrote this months ago and still stand behind it. Ive ingested a shit ton of Melatonin before. That day I took 33 of the 20 mg melatonin i didnt feel shit. At all.

I dunno. Mebeh im just a weirdo but it never worked for me.

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pirateseatsouls said:
Ok. I bought a fat bottle of melatonin a few months ago. I'd take a few every couple days.
Over the weeks, I'd take more and more every day.
One day, I had 33 left, and I popped all of them at like noon. I wasn't even tired.
I, personally, think that melatonin is BS.
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I wrote this months ago and still stand behind it. Ive ingested a shit ton of Melatonin before. That day I took 33 of the 20 mg melatonin i didnt feel shit. At all.

I dunno. Mebeh im just a weirdo but it never worked for me.

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Clob said:
Everyone in here that is complaining about the effects of Melatonin are doing it wrong, trust me.

For sleep aid use, you really don't want anything over 3mg... but for lucid dreams/body high you'll want to take a huge dose.


I recently got a bottle of 60 pills, 20Mg each and me and a friend took 30 each...(can't overdose) so that's 600Mg for each of us. The body high is intense and you really can feel it, after an hour of us feeling weird we smoked some weed and went to a different level of high.

We ended the night and went our separate ways and I went to bed. I didn't lucid dream, but I had dreams that were so realistic that when I woke up it left me confused that I was even asleep.

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I don't want to say you're lying, but I'm gonna have to call bull shit.

First, I've never heard of melatonin pills containing more than 6mg of melatonin. You said it your self, for use as a sleep aid you don't want to take more than 3mg, so why would they make 20mg pills, that's way overkill.







And for those of you that have taken a relatively large amount of melatonin with no noticeable effect as far as use as a sleep aid, when it comes to melatonin less is more. To much and it's counter-effective..


Some studies suggest that smaller doses (for example 0.3 mg as opposed to 3 mg) are just as effective.

Large doses of melatonin can even be counterproductive, provide support to the idea that too much melatonin may spill over onto the wrong zone of the melatonin phase-response curve. In one of their blind subjects, 0.5 mg of melatonin was effective while 20 mg was not.






It only takes little bit to be effective, when using as a sleep aid i usually dose 1mg-3mg at the most, along with 500mg of valerian root and some weed. I fall asleep with ease and have incredible vivid and often lucid dreams...

And melatonin is not something i would use every night for sleep, as it plays a role in the circadian rhythm and that's not something I would want to mess with. Though melatonin is great for resetting your sleep cycle, or for correcting jet-lag (time difference) when traveling. I would suggest using Valerian root as a sleep aid over melatonin, it's more effective IMO and also increases dream intensity/vividness if that's something you seek as well...











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abltsandwich said:
I've been taking 3mg Melatonin every night for sleep for several years.  For me it works.  According to a doctor I spoke with, Melatonin has about 80% efficacy, and of that percentage, it affects people to varying degrees.  So it's not effective for everyone, basically, but knocks me out every night.  Never developed a tolerance.  I never remember my dreams, and I'm not sure I have any.

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Everyone has dreams every night, not everyone remembers them.



Do you smoke cannabis? For most people smoking weed makes it very difficult to remember dreams. It's had no affect on my self as far as dreams go .









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justinsanity said:
Who here has experience with it? What is a good dosage for someone who's never had it before? How fast do you build up a tolerance?

Normally I can usually remember fairly well a dream every other night. Maybe once every other week I get a nice vivid, lucid dream that is very realistic. Hopefully I can make it happen more often.

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Clob said:
Everyone in here that is complaining about the effects of Melatonin are doing it wrong, trust me.

For sleep aid use, you really don't want anything over 3mg... but for lucid dreams/body high you'll want to take a huge dose.


I recently got a bottle of 60 pills, 20Mg each and me and a friend took 30 each...(can't overdose) so that's 600Mg for each of us. The body high is intense and you really can feel it, after an hour of us feeling weird we smoked some weed and went to a different level of high.

We ended the night and went our separate ways and I went to bed. I didn't lucid dream, but I had dreams that were so realistic that when I woke up it left me confused that I was even asleep.

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Eh...


I don't want to say you're lying, but I'm gonna have to call bull shit.

First, I've never heard of melatonin pills containing more than 6mg of melatonin. You said it your self, for use as a sleep aid you don't want to take more than 3mg, so why would they make 20mg pills, that's way overkill.







And for those of you that have taken a relatively large amount of melatonin with no noticeable effect as far as use as a sleep aid, when it comes to melatonin less is more. To much and it's counter-effective..


Some studies suggest that smaller doses (for example 0.3 mg as opposed to 3 mg) are just as effective.

Large doses of melatonin can even be counterproductive, provide support to the idea that too much melatonin may spill over onto the wrong zone of the melatonin phase-response curve. In one of their blind subjects, 0.5 mg of melatonin was effective while 20 mg was not.






It only takes little bit to be effective, when using as a sleep aid i usually dose 1mg-3mg at the most, along with 500mg of valerian root and some weed. I fall asleep with ease and have incredible vivid and often lucid dreams...

And melatonin is not something i would use every night for sleep, as it plays a role in the circadian rhythm and that's not something I would want to mess with. Though melatonin is great for resetting your sleep cycle, or for correcting jet-lag (time difference) when traveling. I would suggest using Valerian root as a sleep aid over melatonin, it's more effective IMO and also increases dream intensity/vividness if that's something you seek as well...











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