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UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure
    #13354528 - 10/18/10 10:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Most people who've discovered the existence of UFOs look forward to the time when this becomes common knowledge. My question is, why do you want public disclosure to occur? Why do you think it's important that people know about this? If you don't want public disclosure, why not? My reasons are kind of selfish it seems. I think a lot of people who know me look down upon me because of my belief in UFOs. They probably think I'm foolish, insane, a liar, and untrustworthy. When people look at you this way, that judgment is applied to everything you do and say. It's frustrating and hurtful. Nonetheless I don't let that get in the way when it comes to my attempt at educating people about this subject.


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Space Elf] * 1
    #13354563 - 10/18/10 10:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Care to hear the opinion of a skeptic?  Too bad, Im gonna give it to you anyway. 

Its basically what you say, believers want disclosure so they can feel vindicated.  They want to have that "I told you so" feeling, and that "see, Im not crazy" feeling.  They want respect in front of their peers.  I suspect that if they were vindicated by such a disclosure that they would soon find a new conspiracy to believe in.  Such beliefs usually occur in clusters within the individuals, even if the beliefs are quite disparate.  The common factor is the person.


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Space Elf]
    #13354566 - 10/18/10 10:53 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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UK schools doing UFO crash drills
By Lounge Daddy, 10 October, 2010, 43 Comments

There seems to be a growing trend among schools to stage a UFO crash, and then teach students how to react, as well as to “properly” investigate and report on the incident.

It sounds like a lot of fun, and a great way to fire up a student’s imagination as well as writing skills. Hell, I wish we would have done a staged UFO crash at my school.

The latest “UFO drill” took place Wed, Sept 29, at Sandford Primary School in the UK. The kids were treated to a full UFO crash scenario that included wreckage, police tape, and real police officers. (Perhaps it was only lacking men from the government telling the children not to talk about what was seen.)




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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Space Elf]
    #13354639 - 10/18/10 11:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

It's good to be a skeptic. If it were not for a series of completely random events in my life, I'd still be one.


Edited by Space Elf (11/25/10 11:02 PM)


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: DieCommie]
    #13354670 - 10/18/10 11:15 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Its basically what you say, believers want disclosure so they can feel vindicated.  They want to have that "I told you so" feeling, and that "see, Im not crazy" feeling.




why would you want to feel vindicated for something you made up? 

i would think you'd only want to feel vindicated if you actually saw something and were upset that nobody believed you.


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Grav]
    #13354742 - 10/18/10 11:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

What about the obvious third choice?  Believer believes, but is mistaken.  Dont believe everything you think.  :wink:


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: DieCommie]
    #13354746 - 10/18/10 11:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

right, you shouldn't :smile:


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Grav]
    #13354755 - 10/18/10 11:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I dont.  :shrug:


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: DieCommie]
    #13354790 - 10/18/10 11:48 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

your opinion is what you think is what you believe right?  you believe that everyone who says they've had an extraterrestrial encounter are mistaken?


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Grav]
    #13354810 - 10/18/10 11:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Im not sure.  Is this a place to parse words, or read the spirit of the message?  :confused:

In either case, I think you are mistaken - but I dont know what to believe.  :awesome:


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: DieCommie]
    #13354852 - 10/19/10 12:02 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

i dunno what to believe either :seriousbusiness:


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: DieCommie]
    #13354948 - 10/19/10 12:37 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Its basically what you say, believers want disclosure so they can feel vindicated.  They want to have that "I told you so" feeling, and that "see, Im not crazy" feeling.  They want respect in front of their peers.  I suspect that if they were vindicated by such a disclosure that they would soon find a new conspiracy to believe in.  Such beliefs usually occur in clusters within the individuals, even if the beliefs are quite disparate.  The common factor is the person.




Oh how amusing it is to see ones mentality projected onto his perceived enemy. :grin:


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    #13355022 - 10/19/10 12:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Its basically what you say, believers want disclosure so they can feel vindicated.  They want to have that "I told you so" feeling, and that "see, Im not crazy" feeling.  They want respect in front of their peers.  I suspect that if they were vindicated by such a disclosure that they would soon find a new conspiracy to believe in.  Such beliefs usually occur in clusters within the individuals, even if the beliefs are quite disparate.  The common factor is the person.




Oh how amusing it is to see ones mentality projected onto his perceived enemy. :grin:




And how is that any different from the flip side?

Isn't it a running theme of people that post in this forum to call others that believe differently from them "sheep" or "government shills"?


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13356552 - 10/19/10 12:18 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I know it's hard to believe but some of us have transcended the skeptic-believer dichotomy. For one, I could care less what others believe - I will have no interest rubbing anything in anyone's face. I'm more interested in the potential positives which may come with disclosure. :shrug:


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #13548770 - 11/27/10 05:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I know it's hard to believe but some of us have transcended the skeptic-believer dichotomy. For one, I could care less what others believe - I will have no interest rubbing anything in anyone's face. I'm more interested in the potential positives which may come with disclosure. :shrug:




word.
Potential positives or negatives, in any case it's a change - and that's what our species and planet needs. Be it eradication or evolution, it's still better than the crap we're in right now.


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: DieCommie]
    #13549075 - 11/27/10 06:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Care to hear the opinion of a skeptic?  Too bad, Im gonna give it to you anyway. 

Its basically what you say, believers want disclosure so they can feel vindicated.  They want to have that "I told you so" feeling, and that "see, Im not crazy" feeling.  They want respect in front of their peers.  I suspect that if they were vindicated by such a disclosure that they would soon find a new conspiracy to believe in.  Such beliefs usually occur in clusters within the individuals, even if the beliefs are quite disparate.  The common factor is the person.



what he said


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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: b0red5tiff]
    #13550708 - 11/28/10 12:49 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I know it's hard to believe but some of us have transcended the skeptic-believer dichotomy. For one, I could care less what others believe - I will have no interest rubbing anything in anyone's face. I'm more interested in the potential positives which may come with disclosure. 




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    #13559813 - 11/29/10 11:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Nexius]
    #13559911 - 11/29/10 11:26 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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NASA to Hold News Conference on Astrobiology Discovery
Science Journal Has Embargoed Details Until 11 a.m. PST On Dec. 2


MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. -- NASA will hold a news conference at 11 a.m. PST on Thursday, Dec. 2, to discuss an astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life in the universe.

The news conference will be held at the NASA Headquarters auditorium at 300 E St. SW, in Washington. It will be broadcast live on NASA Television and streamed on the agency's website at [link to www.nasa.gov.]




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Re: UFO & Alien Existence Disclosure [Re: Grav]
    #13561335 - 11/30/10 07:14 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

^ now that's interesting. And probably not a hoax, there was an article in a couple of actual newspapers in here. It's probably nothing that big though, stench of sensationalism... Fingers are crossed.  :makewar:


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