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 wisp
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 Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus!  [Re: falcon]
#12980501 - 07/31/10 12:08 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright, so maybe G. lucidum for the Ganoderma then. G. lucidum and G. multipileum sound as if they are macroscopically identical to one another, but climate is a defining feature in the very least. I found another lot yesterday, with a more consistent colouring. Here's the pics:
Same species? I would guess that they are.
Campanella looks like a very good match. How did you key it out? Even though that link states that edibility is unknown, I presume being a jelly fungus it would actually be edible?
I've got prints of the first species, but no access to a microscope. I could send a print to someone with the necessary equipment and skills. It's definitely not a jelly fungus, the texture is all wrong. I think you were right about it being a Sparassis species though falcon, as today I found a normal looking Sparassis which looked like the other one should have and smelt exactly the same. I'll post some pics in the next day or so. After having a search around I can see that keying it out to species may prove very difficult...
I had a look at the last polypore (species 5) again last night and the texture of the tissue above the tubes is not velvety, but more like crumbly wood. What would F. fomentarius be like?
So another few ID requests....
Species 6:
This one is interesting. I went for a 20km return walk to a little village up in the mountains yesterday. Near the entrance there was a live tree heavily parasitised by very large polypores. As I was taking photos of them a young girl approached me and told me their name. I asked her if they were edible, using the gesture for eating and she nodded. Further into the village I found someone who spoke English and he confirmed that they were edible and eaten by all the villagers in the area. They are called "kanwu" (pronounced something like "kay-oo" in the local language). Apparently they boil them for around 10 minutes, then chop them into very small pieces and fry them. They are supposed to taste like mutton and be medicinal too.
Habitat:
Growing in the Indian Himalayas, in mixed temperate forest, around 2000m, directly off a living tree.
Gills:
Pale beige pores.
Stem:
Pileate and sessile.
Cap:
Up to maybe 40cm in diameter, 20cm deep and 15cm high. Ungulate, woody, brittle, with a slightly spongy interior. Grey-beige on top with a cream margin.
Spore print color:
Not taken as yet.
Bruising:
Margin bruises a purplish brown.
Other information:
Smells of a heady mix of typical mushroom combined with a strong aniseed/liquorice scent.
And some lazy ID requests:
Panaeolus species:
Growing from dung, has a black spore print. Bruising, if any, is brown. Only ever found growing singly.
Are all these Trametes versicolor, or different Trametes species?
Type 1:
Type 2:
Type 3:
All of them have white pores.
Edited by wisp (07/31/10 12:48 PM)
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 psylosymonreturns
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: wisp]
#12980868 - 07/31/10 02:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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man it sounds just amazing. so did you stick around for some local "kanwu" ? the country looks awesome!
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Niwita
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#12981357 - 07/31/10 04:49 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey tripsis,
The new Ganodermas are all tsugaes, the exception being the last one (with inconsistent coloring).
I'm pretty positive the Trametes are versicolor.
Great pictures man!
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Stopwhispering
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: Niwita]
#12982413 - 07/31/10 09:41 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Absolutely stunning shots and finds Tripsis, keep them coming.
I don't believe I missed this thread when you first put it up. 
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wisp
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: Stopwhispering]
#12989895 - 08/02/10 12:16 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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so did you stick around for some local "kanwu" ?
I'll be heading back to the village tomorrow to stay for a couple of nights and am hoping to try the kanwu then. The guy I was speaking to said it shouldn't be a problem, so it sounds promising.
Speaking of it, I cut up the one I was trying to print today and found that I was misleading you all a little in the description. When I broke it off the tree I got the impression that it was woody and brittle, but it is not. The upper surface it hard, but the inside is tough, but juicy, similar to cooked, stringy meat. Here's the photos:
Does anyone have a idea of what genus this polypore would belong to?
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The new Ganodermas are all tsugaes, the exception being the last one (with inconsistent coloring)
All those Ganoderma fruits were fruiting from the one stump, so they would be all the same species, whether that's G. tsugae or something else. Does G. tsugae not have a white margin during active growth?
Considering that there are over 322 species of Ganoderma worldwide, can you really be sure of identifying them just based off a few photos?
Here's a few photos of the normal Sparassis I found a couple of days back which I think is the same as the first species:
Alright, so I've got a couple more ID requests from the last couple of days...
Species 7:
Habitat:
Growing in the Indian Himalayas, in mixed temperate forest, around 2000m, directly off (dead?) wood.
Gills:
Grey pores, bruising dark grey, with a cream/yellow margin.
Stem:
Pileate and sessile.
Cap:
Up to 5cm in diameter, banded colouring, cream and pale brown. Somewhat velutinous.
Spore print color:
White/cream.
Bruising:
Pores bruise dark grey.
Species 8 - Laetiporus species?
Habitat:
Growing in the Indian Himalayas, in mixed temperate forest, around 2000m, directly off dead cedar wood.
Gills:
White pores.
Stem:
Pileate and sessile.
Cap:
Brown squamose upper surface, possibly orangish, but the sample seemed old or dirty. Around 15cm in diameter.
Spore print color:
White.
Bruising:
Pores/tubes bruised brown.
Other information:
Tubes were able to be removed from the upper tissue of the pileus with relative ease.
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: wisp]
#12989983 - 08/02/10 12:50 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think your pan is a panaeolus papilionaceus
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: trigger]
#12990039 - 08/02/10 01:03 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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All those Ganoderma fruits were fruiting from the one stump, so they would be all the same species, whether that's G. tsugae or something else. Does G. tsugae not have a white margin during active growth?
Considering that there are over 322 species of Ganoderma worldwide, can you really be sure of identifying them just based off a few photos?
In mid-July I found over 27 different Ganodermas on one stump, and there were between 2 and 4 different species on said stump. A couple days later I found a curtisii and a lucidum (or look-alike), the curtisii literally growing an inch next to the lucidum. I'm obviously not familiar with all 322 species in the genus, but I am somewhat well versed with those in my area.
Tsugae has no white margin, and the pores are grey-brown to brown, rather than white or off-white.
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: Niwita]
#13006301 - 08/05/10 11:57 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I returned to that village to try the "kanwu", but it had a disappointing end. As it turned out, "kanwu" was just the word for mushroom in the local language and the guy was trying to tell me that mushrooms are good eating. Fortunately, when he went out to collect the mushrooms for the meal, we requested to go with him. It turned out to be a fortunate move, as he had no idea of what he was doing and was looking foir any small mushrooms. The first three small msuhrooms he found he picked. One was a bolete, another a yellow agaric and the last some sort of Amanita species. Suffice to say, the collection ended there.
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In mid-July I found over 27 different Ganodermas on one stump, and there were between 2 and 4 different species on said stump. A couple days later I found a curtisii and a lucidum (or look-alike), the curtisii literally growing an inch next to the lucidum. I'm obviously not familiar with all 322 species in the genus, but I am somewhat well versed with those in my area.
Tsugae has no white margin, and the pores are grey-brown to brown, rather than white or off-white.
I won't argue with your experience, but the ones I have found in the last fortnight were all the same species. The ones shown in the first photos all ended up without a margin and now have uniform colouring, the same as the ones in the second lot of photos. No doubt you known what grows around you, but with more than 322 species of Ganoderma worldwide, it seems unlikely that any of us will be able to key anything down to species only based on macroscopic characteristics.
So any other ideas for the other ID requests?
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Re: More Indian fungi ID requests + a very strange fungus! [Re: wisp]
#13006355 - 08/05/10 12:10 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I returned to that village to try the "kanwu", but it had a disappointing end. As it turned out, "kanwu" was just the word for mushroom in the local language and the guy was trying to tell me that mushrooms are good eating. Fortunately, when he went out to collect the mushrooms for the meal, we requested to go with him. It turned out to be a fortunate move, as he had no idea of what he was doing and was looking foir any small mushrooms. The first three small msuhrooms he found he picked. One was a bolete, another a yellow agaric and the last some sort of Amanita species. Suffice to say, the collection ended there.
Wow... what a bummer. I imagine you stood there staring at him while he grinned and held out a Destroying Angel. 
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I won't argue with your experience, but the ones I have found in the last fortnight were all the same species. The ones shown in the first photos all ended up without a margin and now have uniform colouring, the same as the ones in the second lot of photos. No doubt you known what grows around you, but with more than 322 species of Ganoderma worldwide, it seems unlikely that any of us will be able to key anything down to species only based on macroscopic characteristics.
Definitely agreed.
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