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The word Jam-Band..
    #13004465 - 08/05/10 12:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

.. gets tossed around a lot both on the interwebz and the real world too..

I'm just curious what exactly makes a "jamband" a "jamband", you know?

My observations thus far..
1) Generally bands I like, or bands I hadn't heard until that point, and then also like.
2) Occasionally referenced are some bands that I don't really like, nothing against them, just not my cup of tea.
3) Many of these bands sound entirely different from one another and entirely different approaches to making music.
4) Lots of fan-base overlap.
5) Most are creative and known for putting on unique performances/ large repertoire/ diverse setlists, and songs often with lengthy "jams" or deviations from the main chord structure/ verse&chorus pattern.
6) People seem to either generally like "jambands" or have a severe distaste for them, neverminding that many sound entirely different from each other.

What do you think makes a "jamband" and do you tend to like them or dislike them?


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: iFennario]
    #13004492 - 08/05/10 12:32 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I love Jam Bands

As far as I can surmise, "Jam Band" refers to bands made by/for people with long attention spans, normally but not always entirely due to drugs, with varying leanings toward folk, blues, jazz, funk, electronic, or acid rock.




The only way they could make a musical genre geared more directly toward me would be if they mixed it with dubstep.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: Krash Kharma]
    #13004505 - 08/05/10 12:35 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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The only way they could make a musical genre geared more directly toward me would be if they mixed it with dubstep.




You would really like EOTO, check em out if you haven't already.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: muistrue]
    #13004525 - 08/05/10 12:39 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

If I hadn't heard of them, how the hell would I know what EOTO means?


Cuz I haven't and don't :sad:


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: muistrue]
    #13004531 - 08/05/10 12:41 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I absolutely love the Grateful Dead, but I have yet to find any "jam band" that I feel anywhere near as much as I do the Dead.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: muistrue]
    #13004532 - 08/05/10 12:41 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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FractalDust said:
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Krash Kharma said:
The only way they could make a musical genre geared more directly toward me would be if they mixed it with dubstep.




You would really like EOTO, check em out if you haven't already.




Dude, EOTO is one thing.. but check out HOLY KIMOTO.. It's EOTO plus Kyle Hollingsworth from SCI on keys and STEVE mofuckin KIMOCK on guitar. It's like analog and digital music fucking the shit out of eachother. I don't think they've done many shows, I was lucky enough to attend the first ever this January. Amazing, and I'm not big on electronic stuff.

Oh and EOTO = Elephants Only Talk Occasionally (I think?)... Drummer and percussionist from SCI


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: Krash Kharma]
    #13004535 - 08/05/10 12:42 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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If I hadn't heard of them, how the hell would I know what EOTO means?


Cuz I haven't and don't :sad:




Uh it's the name of the band. It stands for End of Time Orchestra but they're known as EOTO. They mix elements of jam band, electronica and dubstep. All live, and all improv. :thumbup:


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: iFennario]
    #13004560 - 08/05/10 12:48 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

AFAIK a jam band is just that, a band that jams during their performances. IE they noodle around a lot with their sound and have a tendency to improvise most if not all of the instrumental passages in their live sets.

For example, no two performances of a Grateful Dead song are the same. It's all off the cuff. Acid is vital to the GD's sound simultaneously for the band members, whose musical spontaneity and synergy was enhanced by the psychedelia, and for giving the audience patience and appreciation for two-hour improvised versions of songs that take up two minutes on the studio album.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: iFennario]
    #13004564 - 08/05/10 12:49 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

This opened the second set.. it was the Beatles playing over the PA during intermission, and they looped it and kept going on it: Holy Kimoto Come Together

EDIT: that is shitty sound, and a poor example of what they do.. if you scroll down this page there is audio for a couple tracks, from the soundboard HERE


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: muistrue]
    #13004569 - 08/05/10 12:51 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

without looking it up or anything like that...


a "jam-band", as I understand it, is a band that plays without any set song structure, and more or less just "jams" (improvises) with each other. Sorta like jazz without a head (set melodic phrase used as a main identifiable aspect of a song). Although many jam bands don't sound what one would consider jazzy, it is a lot like jazz without a head or lead sheet

something like that


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: the bizzle]
    #13004594 - 08/05/10 12:58 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm.. already we have several conflicting definitions.. that's why I asked. To show how everyone has a different opinion on the term.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: iFennario]
    #13004604 - 08/05/10 01:00 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

But there's one thing we can all agree on. It's a damn good party. :awesomenod:


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: muistrue]
    #13004608 - 08/05/10 01:01 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'm listening to those tracks I suggested on that blog link.. wow.. I forgot how sick it was


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: BlindSophist]
    #13004626 - 08/05/10 01:05 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Tchan909 said:
AFAIK a jam band is just that, a band that jams during their performances. IE they noodle around a lot with their sound and have a tendency to improvise most if not all of the instrumental passages in their live sets.

For example, no two performances of a Grateful Dead song are the same. It's all off the cuff. Acid is vital to the GD's sound simultaneously for the band members, whose musical spontaneity and synergy was enhanced by the psychedelia, and for giving the audience patience and appreciation for two-hour improvised versions of songs that take up two minutes on the studio album.





Exactly this.  A jam band improvises most of their music.  Typically jam bands never play a song the same way twice.  The idea become popular with jazz musicians in the 50s.  The bands were often in the center of the marijuana culture at that time.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: the bizzle]
    #13004679 - 08/05/10 01:15 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:
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without looking it up or anything like that...


a "jam-band", as I understand it, is a band that plays without any set song structure, and more or less just "jams" (improvises) with each other. Sorta like jazz without a head (set melodic phrase used as a main identifiable aspect of a song). Although many jam bands don't sound what one would consider jazzy, it is a lot like jazz without a head or lead sheet

something like that




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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13004695 - 08/05/10 01:17 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I define a jam band as a band that doesn't play by a fixed set. They may play a completely different set of songs one night than they do the next. Also the members may switch instruments and they may create new material right in the middle of a show.

That's my definition anyway.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: muistrue]
    #13004812 - 08/05/10 01:50 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Krash Kharma said:
If I hadn't heard of them, how the hell would I know what EOTO means?


Cuz I haven't and don't :sad:




Uh it's the name of the band. It stands for End of Time Orchestra but they're known as EOTO. They mix elements of jam band, electronica and dubstep. All live, and all improv. :thumbup:



that. Sounds.

fantastic


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: Krash Kharma]
    #13004813 - 08/05/10 01:51 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I need to check that out too... just the name blows my mind. :eek:


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: BlindSophist]
    #13004878 - 08/05/10 02:06 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

End of Time Orchestra.. hmm.. where did I come up with Elephants Only Talk Occasionally?? :confused2:

Okay, interested parties get
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And listen to Triskol a track from Holy Kimoto if you scroll like 2/3 down the page. There's also proper Come Together audio somewhere there too.


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Re: The word Jam-Band.. [Re: BlindSophist]
    #13004885 - 08/05/10 02:07 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know the official musical characterstics, but IME, jam bands sound alot more similar than dissimilar.

Bisco sounds like further sounds like STS9.

I've heard lots of different genres of music where the people improvise, just improvising isn't what makes the jam band.

I dunno, we should get a music theory major up in here to tell us how these bands are similar.


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