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What IS god?
    #12954875 - 07/26/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

A physical entity(s)?

Some kind of ultimate macrocosm?

Some kind of energy?

Is god life (Biology?)


And where does your philosophy and or reason root from in your belief of "God?"

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955066 - 07/26/10 11:29 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's all a question of perspective.

I'm a god to my cat. I'm the master of light as I can turn on and off all lights inside my house. I feed her and punish her when needed. Î give her love as well. I'm her god !

Do I know someone or something that can do the same for me. Yeah ! My mom, she's my god !

Beliefs, faith ? I've got some. Don't know in which way they can contribute to my existence, or everyone else's for that matter. Nevertheless, my simplest definition of "God" is: god is.


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Re: What IS god? [Re: MAIA]
    #12955147 - 07/26/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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It's all a question of perspective.

I'm a god to my cat. I'm the master of light as I can turn on and off all lights inside my house. I feed her and punish her when needed. Î give her love as well. I'm her god !

Do I know someone or something that can do the same for me. Yeah ! My mom, she's my god !

Beliefs, faith ? I've got some. Don't know in which way they can contribute to my existence, or everyone else's for that matter. Nevertheless, my simplest definition of "God" is: god is.




So your analogy of you being a God to your cat means you view God as simply your intellectual superior in biological manifestation...So God is An entity?

As far as your beliefs on "God" and that it "Is" ...everything IS, perception IS...SO IS god IS? God is perception?

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955157 - 07/26/10 11:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

A figure created by humans to control and oppress lesser-minded humans? Like Zeus, Set and all those other ones made up before him?

Seems kinda simple to me. :shrug:

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955168 - 07/26/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know if it's an entity.

To me, God is an archetype symbolizing omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence.


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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955169 - 07/26/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

God is a realization of the higher self.  Something to strive for beyond what we see and hear.  God is an abstraction, manifested in what seems to be karmic retribution.  God is the random that keeps us on our toes.

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica] * 1
    #12955170 - 07/26/10 11:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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TeamAmerica said:
A physical entity(s)?

Some kind of ultimate macrocosm?

Some kind of energy?

Is god life (Biology?)


And where does your philosophy and or reason root from in your belief of "God?"




If I were to call something god, which I don't, I'd say biology/evolution. It's apparently happening and responsible for us being here. Beyond that I don't know much.


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Re: What IS god? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #12955175 - 07/26/10 11:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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A figure created by humans to control and oppress lesser-minded humans? Like Zeus, Set and all those other ones made up before him?

Seems kinda simple to me. :shrug:




Well then God to you is simply an idea...an oppressive propaganda used against un liberated minds...

But Im not talking about that...that is a different subject called "religion and imperialism (istic thought)" basically...

You have gotten no closer to answering or creating an Idea of what in the world "God" can possibly mean.

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Re: What IS god? [Re: MAIA]
    #12955181 - 07/26/10 11:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't know if it's an entity.

To me, God is an archetype symbolizing omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence.




I think your God could be represented as a single, all seeing, all potent EYE then...would that be the proper symbol?

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Re: What IS god? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #12955196 - 07/26/10 11:58 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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God is a realization of the higher self.  Something to strive for beyond what we see and hear.  God is an abstraction, manifested in what seems to be karmic retribution.  God is the random that keeps us on our toes.




So in this case "God" is not entity, but rather energy...as in, it is experienced in the invisible, or in the MIND...

Your God is energy, that seems to be the guide of human intelligence and prosperity...

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955204 - 07/26/10 12:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

"god" is energy.  there is no supreme entity that controls everything in the universe.  there is only energy.  this energy flows thru everything that is natural, not man-made things.  you can see it and feel it when you are on psychedelics or meditating.  psychedelics are our way of tapping into this energy, and living the way we are meant to live.  almost all of society is not in tune with this energy, and that is what causes most of the worlds problems.  if every human being knew the kind of happiness and joy you can achieve by meditating or experiencing psychedelics, do you think they'd care if they had the newest tv, the flashiest car, the biggest bank account, etc?  thats not what god/energy is about.  we are all energy and we can all experience what its like to see the world/universe/life as it really is

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955214 - 07/26/10 12:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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You have gotten no closer to answering or creating an Idea of what in the world "God" can possibly mean.






You overcomplicate the issue, and your life. :shrug:

Have fun with that.

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Re: What IS god? [Re: Icelander]
    #12955227 - 07/26/10 12:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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TeamAmerica said:
A physical entity(s)?

Some kind of ultimate macrocosm?

Some kind of energy?

Is god life (Biology?)


And where does your philosophy and or reason root from in your belief of "God?"




If I were to call something god, which I don't, I'd say biology/evolution. It's apparently happening and responsible for us being here. Beyond that I don't know much.




Yes this seems to be the debate for me..."God" itself seems to denote a singular entity(s)

Biology can be classified as "God" only in the fact that it has an intelligence that not only creates us, but possibly exceeds us...

It brings up the question, what IS biology? We only experience biology on earth, but we can deduct it exists elsewhere. Is it the apex of consciousness? Or is it a creation of another form of consciousness...which would fall into the category of a Creating Entity of physical presence, or a "God"

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955234 - 07/26/10 12:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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God is a realization of the higher self.  Something to strive for beyond what we see and hear.  God is an abstraction, manifested in what seems to be karmic retribution.  God is the random that keeps us on our toes.




So in this case "God" is not entity, but rather energy...as in, it is experienced in the invisible, or in the MIND...

Your God is energy, that seems to be the guide of human intelligence and prosperity...



Close.  Everything is experienced in the mind.  That doesn't mean that the child molester killed by a teenage drunk driver isn't an act of God.

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Re: What IS god? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #12955237 - 07/26/10 12:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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You have gotten no closer to answering or creating an Idea of what in the world "God" can possibly mean.






You overcomplicate the issue, and your life. :shrug:

Have fun with that.




You don't understand the issue and I don't need your projections of what you think I do with my life :etbig:

If you think It is "Over complicated"...then gtfo?

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Re: What IS god? [Re: Icelander]
    #12955238 - 07/26/10 12:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's a concept based on beliefs, not necessarily an EYE or any sort of entity. I simply don't know god, just have a mental structure, either created by part of my brain or by a cultural concept, that creates the idea for this archetype.

I do believe it's meaningless whether god is an entity or not.


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Re: What IS god? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #12955255 - 07/26/10 12:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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God is a realization of the higher self.  Something to strive for beyond what we see and hear.  God is an abstraction, manifested in what seems to be karmic retribution.  God is the random that keeps us on our toes.




So in this case "God" is not entity, but rather energy...as in, it is experienced in the invisible, or in the MIND...

Your God is energy, that seems to be the guide of human intelligence and prosperity...



Close.  Everything is experienced in the mind.  That doesn't mean that the child molester killed by a teenage drunk driver isn't an act of God.




an "act of God" is just a naive expression though...

It implies that all of reality (everywhere?) is synchronized and watched over by "God" which this interpretation of God would fall under Ultimate Macrocosm, as an all knowing entity peeking in and controlling our microscopic reality...

Never liked that idea of "god"

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Re: What IS god? [Re: MAIA]
    #12955309 - 07/26/10 12:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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It's a concept based on beliefs, not necessarily an EYE or any sort of entity. I simply don't know god, just have a mental structure, either created by part of my brain or by a cultural concept, that creates the idea for this archetype.

I do believe it's meaningless whether god is an entity or not.




Maybe you did not understand where I was going with the Eye...You said god is omni potent, omni present, The Eye represents on the outer the ability to see the reflection of light, and what IS around you. The eye on the inner represents Consciousness, but more than just that, more of an ability of consciousness.

Did you know popular to common belief, that the ALL seeing eye atop the pyramid is OLDER than America, and it does not represent in any way some kind of demon?

There is actually an interesting story that goes with the introduction of the great seal on the dollar.

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Re: What IS god? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #12955381 - 07/26/10 12:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Pictures are symbols, just like words. God is a concept so abstract that, in my view, it lacks all symbolism in its essence because it represents all the symbols. It is us the ones giving it attributes and significance, and thus, symbolism through an archetypal concept.

The "all seeing eye" is just an example of those attributes applied to a symbol. It can represent our idea of god but it doesn't necessarily represent the essence of god. Just what we think of it.


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Re: What IS god? [Re: MAIA]
    #12955386 - 07/26/10 12:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Did you know popular to common belief, that the ALL seeing eye atop the pyramid is OLDER than America, and it does not represent in any way some kind of demon?

There is actually an interesting story that goes with the introduction of the great seal on the dollar.




Yes. I'm familiar with all this information.


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