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Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana
July 9, 2010 - The Atlantic
Californians will vote this fall on whether or not marijuana should be legal in some parts of the state. What will they decide?
Polling on marijuana in California was scarce before the Tax Cannabis campaign officially ramped up, but in the past few months more legitimate surveys have been conducted, and we're getting a clearer picture of whether people actually want to make the leap and let counties legalize and tax pot.
More polling is out today: Californians narrowly oppose legalization, by a margin of 48% to 44%, in the latest survey from Field, which described Proposition 19 in an accurate fashion and then asked people how they'd vote.
The issue is fairly divisive, and everyone seems to have an opinion. Only 8% were undecided, and 77% of voters have heard of it (by comparison, 63% have an opinion on Senate candidate Carly Fiorina). Field polled 1,005 likely voters June 22-July 5, with a +/-3.2% margin of error.
For about a year, marijuana reformers have insisted that legalization is popular, citing an April 2009 Field poll (which they still cite) that showed 56% support for legalizing and taxing marijuana to solve the state's $20+ billion budget deficit.
Since then, more polling has been conducted that supports their conclusion. This year, SurveyUSA conducted a poll on April 20 of all days (ha ha, good one SurveyUSA), and, lo and behold, 56% said California should "legalize the use of marijuana," while 42% opposed it in the automated survey of 500 Californians.
The Tax Cannabis campaign contracted an internal poll that showed 51% support to 40% opposition when pollsters read the title of the initiative as it appears on the ballot, "Changes California Law to Legalize Marijuana and Allow It to Be Regulated and Taxed." The poll found 52% support when respondents heard the brief summary, written by California's attorney general (who happens to be gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown, who has stayed neutral on the measure), which will appear under the title on the ballot.
The law would work like this: if Prop. 19 passes, counties will be able to individually legalize marijuana if they so choose, and marijuana would be treated largely like alcohol: counties could only legalize it for adults over 21, and driving while impaired or possessing it around schools would still be illegal. Taxation would be left up to the counties. You can read the full text of the ballot initiative here.
One major challenge for legalization: Gil Kerlikowske, the Obama administration's drug czar, has made it clear that legalizing marijuana is a "non-starter," and it appears that the federal government is NOT on board with letting California legalize en masse. If only a few counties legalize, it might be less concerned, and it's doubtful that the federal government has enough law enforcement capacity to enforce federal drug laws in California. A lawsuit against the state--a la the Justice Department's suit against Arizona over its immigration law--resting on the Constitution's Supremacy Clause for federal law's supersedence over state law, might be a natural recourse if the Obama administration wants federal drug laws upheld.
The feds and their potential nixing of ballot initiatives has traditionally been an issue for state-level campaigns to legalize medical marijuana--how do you convince voters to support it if the federal government will probably step in and nix the new law?--but a strategist for the Tax Cannabis initiative said Californians haven't voiced too much concern over that possibility. Perhaps the Obama administration's decision to allow state-level legalization of medical marijuana (not marijuana for entertainment purposes) has helped.
If the close polling is any indication, the federal government's reaction to Prop. 19 is an open question that may get answered after Californians vote on the measure in November.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: veggie]
#12872887 - 07/09/10 12:55 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the powers at be somehow fucked with this voting process. Who remembers back in 2000 the Florida voting "error" or whatever in the Bush vs Gore election? Technically Gore won by popular vote or whatever and something fucked up in Florida, I forget the exact story but yea, supposedly there was some foul play there. I really hope there is a highly regulated system in place to ensure the voting process is not fucked with.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: PsilocybinMike]
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the powers at be somehow fucked with this voting process.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Mr.Pink]
#12872944 - 07/09/10 01:10 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Mr.Pink said:
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PsilocybinMike said:
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the powers at be somehow fucked with this voting process.
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It's no joke. I remember reading somewhere that supposedly there was this programmer who was contracted by some government branch/bush administration to literally create a program that rigs an election to come out to 51% to 49% no matter what. Obviously I don't have hard evidence to back that up, but do you really find it that hard to believe?
I'm not a hardcore 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but I've got enough intelligence to understand there's clearly something fucked up with that and the truth has been altered substantially. That "official 9/11 report" that came out has already been picked apart by scientists for so many inconsistencies/falsehoods and this is supposed to be like a certified account of all 9/11 from our government. When 9/11 first happened I NEVER would have suspected it was anything but a legitimate terrorist attack, and now that there's pretty substantial evidence suggesting there was at least some degree of foul play and cover ups here who knows what else they're capable of.
Fucking with an electronic voting system? Absolutely.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#12873000 - 07/09/10 01:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Its true
They will fuckin mend with the votes to make it look like the people actually said NO
Don't watch TV
AND DONT VOTE cause it don't matter.
Revolution is what we need to throw out the government and there pigs of filth.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: PsilocybinMike]
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and now that there's pretty substantial evidence suggesting there was at least some degree of foul play and cover ups here who knows what else they're capable of.
oooo sooper crazy you just blew my mind
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#12873117 - 07/09/10 01:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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PsilocybinMike said:
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Mr.Pink said:
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PsilocybinMike said:
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the powers at be somehow fucked with this voting process.
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It's no joke. I remember reading somewhere that supposedly there was this programmer who was contracted by some government branch/bush administration to literally create a program that rigs an election to come out to 51% to 49% no matter what. Obviously I don't have hard evidence to back that up, but do you really find it that hard to believe?
I'm not a hardcore 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but I've got enough intelligence to understand there's clearly something fucked up with that and the truth has been altered substantially. That "official 9/11 report" that came out has already been picked apart by scientists for so many inconsistencies/falsehoods and this is supposed to be like a certified account of all 9/11 from our government. When 9/11 first happened I NEVER would have suspected it was anything but a legitimate terrorist attack, and now that there's pretty substantial evidence suggesting there was at least some degree of foul play and cover ups here who knows what else they're capable of.
Fucking with an electronic voting system? Absolutely.
Im sorry to say but there is no substantial evidence suggesting there was some foul play... And if there IS i wanna see it not some fuckign you tube video or documentary edited by photo shop or some fucking crap-rack program.
All that shit is bullshit those planes where hijacked by terrorists and flown into World trade center in the US. The people who died where real...the lives lost where real...Conspiracy?? lmao I think not where just looking now for others to blame ...Fuck sakes could you imagine if America really did point fingers at those Muslims?? Imagine that?
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Scruffy404]
#12873129 - 07/09/10 01:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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"56% support for legalizing and taxing marijuana..."
This puts the lie to the title of the article. Typical media lies.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: wowitch17]
#12873138 - 07/09/10 01:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I'm tired of these bullshit polls, they're just so obviously propagandist.
Just vote when it's time to vote, no other poll from some "randomly" selected pool of voters will give me any satisfaction, only speculation.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Scruffy404]
#12873891 - 07/09/10 03:57 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Scruffy404 said:
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PsilocybinMike said:
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Mr.Pink said:
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PsilocybinMike said:
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the powers at be somehow fucked with this voting process.
quoted for truth
It's no joke. I remember reading somewhere that supposedly there was this programmer who was contracted by some government branch/bush administration to literally create a program that rigs an election to come out to 51% to 49% no matter what. Obviously I don't have hard evidence to back that up, but do you really find it that hard to believe?
I'm not a hardcore 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but I've got enough intelligence to understand there's clearly something fucked up with that and the truth has been altered substantially. That "official 9/11 report" that came out has already been picked apart by scientists for so many inconsistencies/falsehoods and this is supposed to be like a certified account of all 9/11 from our government. When 9/11 first happened I NEVER would have suspected it was anything but a legitimate terrorist attack, and now that there's pretty substantial evidence suggesting there was at least some degree of foul play and cover ups here who knows what else they're capable of.
Fucking with an electronic voting system? Absolutely.
Im sorry to say but there is no substantial evidence suggesting there was some foul play... And if there IS i wanna see it not some fuckign you tube video or documentary edited by photo shop or some fucking crap-rack program.
All that shit is bullshit those planes where hijacked by terrorists and flown into World trade center in the US. The people who died where real...the lives lost where real...Conspiracy?? lmao I think not where just looking now for others to blame ...Fuck sakes could you imagine if America really did point fingers at those Muslims?? Imagine that?
Check out Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory TV show on TruTV somewhere.
In it he talked about how they found nano-thermite in the rubble of the world trade center, unreacted. And how the I Beams were all severed at an exact 45 degree angle, you could see them sticking up out of the rubble in some of the pictures and he tried to get a closer look but it was not open to the public for inspection, including him, and he's a governor.
Also, Check out the third building that fell that day, Building 7. Apparantly not hit by anything, a fire on like two or three floors on one side of the building caused the entire building to collapse at freefall speed. Due to Fire, with no other damage like the other buildings.
They also have people in the buildings before they came down talking about explosions in the basement that shattered the windows long before the buildings came down. Explosions in the basement?
Oh, and the third building that came down just so happened to house all the data and records for the CIA, FBI, all their financial records... ETC.
Not to mention the buildings were owned by Donald Trump, no wait. Sorry, Larry Silverstein. Two weeks beforehand he took out a huge insurance policy on the entire complex specifically for terrorist attacks and hijacked jet airliners on the entire complex.
Finally he came on live television and even said "We decided to pull building 7 later on in the afternoon"
meaning they ALREADY had explosives planted in those buildings to demolish them. He slipped it himself and they took the show off air after it aired once.
That's really just the tip of the iceberg. We could go into so much more,
*how there's absolutely no footage of an Actual Airplane hitting the pentagon, just a bunch of secret service people running around with shrapnel and a bullet hole like hole, And absolutely no rubble of the plane crashed in PA
*how if any planes on the eastern seaboard go off course for even 5 minutes without radioing in why or whatever, jets are scrambled immediately... Where as on 9/11 it took 2-1/2 hours or so, and even then jets were never scrambled.
Why? Because Just to throw this out there... NORAD, (North American Aerospace Defense Command) who is tasked with scrambling these jets in emergencies just happened to be running a drill, On the Morning of 9/11, that the world trade center was going to be attacked by two hijacked airliners. The tapes are out there, Listen to them: "Is this real life or exercise? *This is Real Life, It's not an exercise* Yet they were told exactly what happened that day, Was to be an exercise planned out, effectively confusing them and not scrambling any "Real" jets...
and you know, In the OFFICIAL story they fo7und: the hijackers paper passport in perfect condition on the ground beneath the towers after the planes hit and exploded into fireballs. They said the passport flew out of the passenger seat, out of the fireball and landed on the ground in tact, And they were hence identified.
I mean come on. And none of this has anything to do with youtube or photoshop. And all that's just the tip of the iceberg. Nearly everything shouts false flag op imo. Hitler did the same thing to invade other countries.
Who knows. We just so happen to get attacked at the right time after a presidents election was fudged so he could do right the same place his father went. Who knows if thats the exact reason. It could be anything. But it's highly improbable a guy in a cave halfway across the world could disable the entire world trade center complex security for two weeks months beforehand to install nanothermite explosives. I doubt a guy in a cave could play such a role in NORAD central command so as to play a joke and say were going to get attacked this day as an exercise... And just the day before... Apparantly our government misplaced like 700 million dollars. next day that was forgotten... :-?
And the fact that when all the planes went down after 9/11...
The only family able to fly?
You guessed it.
Bin Ladens.
Double You tee EFF? And not a US Senator? Nope. Bin Ladens.
I mean if you have half a brain, Go ahead and photoshop your imagination and say it was that guy in the cave that set us up for this decade long imperialistic nationbuilding narcotrafficing rampage in the middle east, that just so happened to make TONNS of money for the corporations chaired (CEO) by none other than our vice president himself. Or was it rumsfeld. Either way.
And oil? Who knows, bush family = oil family.
Who knows. Come on. Our government is corrupt. We all know that. NOW I am done. Any questions?
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: JohnP]
#12873946 - 07/09/10 04:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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uuuuuuuuuugh lol
first thing you cite is jesse ventura's TV show.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: JohnP]
#12873953 - 07/09/10 04:11 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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And the congressional and senate hearings talking about how there were endless intelligence reports saying bin laden plans to attack world trade center. Numerous reports. They put them aside. Who put them aside? Who's covering up What?
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Alabama Slim]
#12874091 - 07/09/10 04:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It's the martians i tell you!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Stonehenge]
#12874285 - 07/09/10 05:23 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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"56% support for legalizing and taxing marijuana..."
This puts the lie to the title of the article. Typical media lies.
Uhhh noo. It depends on the sample they used for the survey. You can skew sample results easily, and that goes for both sides. I highly doubt that the pro-weed side is some goody goodies who would never think of skewing their results.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Stonehenge]
#12874296 - 07/09/10 05:25 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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GTFO there and vote California! The world is watching. Don't fuck this up because you're too lazy to vote. This shit means alot to everybody, not just CALI
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: learningtofly]
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It does not depend on the sample at all. In the poll cited, 56% were in favor of legalizing and taxing it. Only the question of legalizing it with no taxation were people narrowly against it. So the article title was false and misleading. Typical media bullshit.
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Re: Poll: Californians Narrowly Oppose Legalizing Marijuana [Re: Scruffy404]
#12874617 - 07/09/10 06:31 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the powers at be somehow fucked with this voting process.
quoted for truth
It's no joke. I remember reading somewhere that supposedly there was this programmer who was contracted by some government branch/bush administration to literally create a program that rigs an election to come out to 51% to 49% no matter what. Obviously I don't have hard evidence to back that up, but do you really find it that hard to believe?
I'm not a hardcore 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but I've got enough intelligence to understand there's clearly something fucked up with that and the truth has been altered substantially. That "official 9/11 report" that came out has already been picked apart by scientists for so many inconsistencies/falsehoods and this is supposed to be like a certified account of all 9/11 from our government. When 9/11 first happened I NEVER would have suspected it was anything but a legitimate terrorist attack, and now that there's pretty substantial evidence suggesting there was at least some degree of foul play and cover ups here who knows what else they're capable of.
Fucking with an electronic voting system? Absolutely.
Im sorry to say but there is no substantial evidence suggesting there was some foul play... And if there IS i wanna see it not some fuckign you tube video or documentary edited by photo shop or some fucking crap-rack program.
All that shit is bullshit those planes where hijacked by terrorists and flown into World trade center in the US. The people who died where real...the lives lost where real...Conspiracy?? lmao I think not where just looking now for others to blame ...Fuck sakes could you imagine if America really did point fingers at those Muslims?? Imagine that?
How do you figure? Do you realize there's a group of some pretty charged up scientists/physicists who have picked apart the governments released "Official 9/11 report" apart piece by piece and proven that it's inaccurate and obviously shit is being covered up. How is certified government documents being proven to be bullshit not reason to suspect foul play? Wake up.
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