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Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent)
    #12789166 - 06/23/10 10:24 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I need to dry some mushys real quick because I am about to leave town for a while. Can you place freshly picked mushrooms in a dehydrator or is an air drying period necessary so as not to cook the little guys and effect potency.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789169 - 06/23/10 10:26 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

theyll be fine in the dehydrator.

I've read temperatures of 160+F are needed to noticeably affect potency


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: k00laid]
    #12789252 - 06/23/10 10:51 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

yeah but what about the fact that there is so much moisture in there. Wont that act as a heat conductor further breaking down the actives.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789276 - 06/23/10 10:57 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Normal heat won't affect potency.
People think so for some reason but there is no evidence anywhere to say so.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789277 - 06/23/10 10:57 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

No.  Stick em in the dehydrator.  They'll be fine.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: Doc_T]
    #12789289 - 06/23/10 11:00 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Normal heat won't affect potency.
People think so for some reason but there is no evidence anywhere to say so.




I understand that heat won't affect potency when allowed to air dry for 24 hours but I figured the moisture in fresh ones would cook 'em. They are going in right now. Thanks guys.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789318 - 06/23/10 11:07 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)


I harvest fresh & put them straight into a Nesco dehydrator.
(Nesco has a heat setting dial & fan)
With the heat setting anywhere from 110 to 130F
Never had any issues. But, was never in any rush to get them done.
Dehydrating takes a little time.
Don't try to rush it, with higher heat over 150F


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: myco.alchemist]
    #12789374 - 06/23/10 11:25 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks myco.alchemist. I understand that it takes a while to dry mushrooms in a dehydrator, I have done it several times but I always allowed the mushrooms to air dry for 24 hours prior until they felt dry on the exterior. Anyway, I am not leaving town until tomorrow but I just wanted to get them in there as fast as possible so they are dry before I leave. Also my dehydrator does not a have a temperature adjustment so I just prop up the lid on some cans and that brings the temp down to around 120 to 130.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789383 - 06/23/10 11:28 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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I just prop up the lid on some cans.




:facepalm: Use as directed for best results.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: Doc_T]
    #12789404 - 06/23/10 11:35 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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I just prop up the lid on some cans.




:facepalm: Use as directed for best results.




No :facepalm:. It runs well over 160 with the lid placed on properly and I saw a thread that said you could prop it up so I tried it. I put a thermomter on the bottom rack with the lid raised up and it read 130. Problem solved, it is not rocket science and I have done it several times to end up with perfect cracker dry mushrooms. Stop being so condescending Doc.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789514 - 06/23/10 12:08 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

rotate your trays often for quick results. i rotate mine 2-3 times a day and it takes less than 24 hours to finish.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789526 - 06/23/10 12:10 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

And there are people who swear up and down that using hot dehydrators has no noticeable effect on potency (they concede there may be a slight loss which is subjectively negligible).

You were worried about getting them dry as fast as possible so Doc told you how to do that. You shouldn't give people a hard time for trying to help, we remember that sort of thing.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: NizzyJones]
    #12789541 - 06/23/10 12:14 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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we remember that sort of thing.




^ this is an example of the holier-than-thou-secret-club-mentality that rears its ugly head from time to time in the cultivation forum.

its hard to ignore it and occasionally people will get irked and respond in kind.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: Frizzle]
    #12789634 - 06/23/10 12:37 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Would you prefer if I said "it's, like, bad karma brah"? :shrug:

I'm not trying to be a dick, just saying it's stupid to get offended by people trying to help you. The reason you get responses cut-short like Doc's is because someone posted this exact question about a week ago.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: NizzyJones]
    #12789653 - 06/23/10 12:41 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Would you prefer if I said "it's, like, bad karma brah"? :shrug:

I'm not trying to be a dick, just saying it's stupid to get offended by people trying to help you.




i agree, its stupid to get offended by people trying to help you. unless they are just trying to boost there ego by making you feel stupid/inferior.

no worries dude!:stoned:


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789654 - 06/23/10 12:41 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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bootedboy said:
I just prop up the lid on some cans.




:facepalm: Use as directed for best results.




No :facepalm:. It runs well over 160 with the lid placed on properly and I saw a thread that said you could prop it up so I tried it. I put a thermomter on the bottom rack with the lid raised up and it read 130. Problem solved, it is not rocket science and I have done it several times to end up with perfect cracker dry mushrooms. Stop being so condescending Doc.




Doc is always condescending, it is his way :smile:

But hes right, often is too. I run my dehydrator closed up..it can get up to 160 or more. But that is air temp. Water makes it SLOWER to heat up. Food filled with water takes time to heat up. As water cooks out food heats up and burns quickly. The cells of the mushrooms arent as hot as the air of your dehydrator.

I have NEVER seen anyone suggest you fan dry shrooms before dehydrating them. That would be counterproductive.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789719 - 06/23/10 12:54 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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bootedboy said:  It runs well over 160 with the lid placed on.




Sofukkin' what? 160F isn't going to hurt the actives.
Find any proof otherwise and win a 5-shroom rating.

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bootedboy said: Stop being so condescending Doc.




Stop being dense.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789743 - 06/23/10 12:58 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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bootedboy said:
I just prop up the lid on some cans.




:facepalm: Use as directed for best results.




No :facepalm:. It runs well over 160 with the lid placed on properly and I saw a thread that said you could prop it up so I tried it. I put a thermomter on the bottom rack with the lid raised up and it read 130. Problem solved, it is not rocket science and I have done it several times to end up with perfect cracker dry mushrooms. Stop being so condescending Doc.





With your modification, I would think you are GOOD TO GO.
Just get them in it & run it until you are about out the door.
Overnight should get the job done.

Sounds like you have a RONCO.
One with a temp dial & fan is far better IMHO.
Ronco's are about like mini-ovens.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: myco.alchemist]
    #12789774 - 06/23/10 01:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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myco.alchemist said:Sounds like you have a RONCO.
One with a temp dial & fan is far better IMHO.
Ronco's are about like mini-ovens.




No I have a nesco fd-39 with a heater and a fan but it runs really hot. I hear you about the heat not breaking down the actives Doc but I don't need you adding this emoticon :facepalm: to prove your point. I answer peoples questions in the most respectful way I can and there is no reason for you not to.


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Re: Fresh mushrooms in the dehydrator ( urgent) [Re: bootedboy]
    #12789796 - 06/23/10 01:09 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Well then respectfully answer my question, please.
Have you ever seen any evidence that heat damages potency, or is this all just a bunch of ignorant bullshit fearmongering?


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