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 My first time trying JWH-018/073 
#12699484 - 06/06/10 10:10 PM (3 years, 13 days ago) |
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I started taking drugs after finding a site for Saliva Divinorum, Salvia had always sounded like a pretty cool drug to me, and most say there are no side effects or anything so I figured why not. I took Salvia and I really like it but this isn't going to be about Salvia.
After about a year the website owner came out with "pwanna" which is his own blend of JWH-018 and JWH-073 infused into mint leaf. I never did THC or any other cannabinoid before so I decided to try it. Basically I screwed up, I was supposed to take 1/16th of a teaspoon worth, but instead I rolled a joint, about an inch long, and smoked the thing in one puff.
I didn't feel anything, and the smoke didn't even make me want to cough all that bad, compared to Salvia and regular cigarettes this stuff was mild on the lungs. "it's not doing anything" I thought to myself, thinking it wasn't enough or that maybe it just doesn't work. I laid down on my bed and felt a warm glow come over my body as well as a very familiar Salvia Divinorum effect of time strobing/disassociation, I thought "cool, it's like Salvia kind of."
But then my heart skipped a beat and started to pound really hard and really fast, I panicked "This isn't good.. this isn't what it's supposed to do is it?" I thought as I sat up and left my bedroom to go alert my sisters that I had taken something new and that it was having a bad effect on me. My anxiety spiked, it was the worse anxiety I'd ever had in my life but I still tried to remain calm as they called for a paramedic.
My resting heart rate was around 160-180bpm at this time, while they were on the phone my body went cold, I could feel my pulse in my neck bulging and it felt like it was made of stone, either because my blood pressure was so high or because my senses were exaggerated from the trip. Some of my extremities, arms legs and one other extremity, started to tingle and feel exceedingly cold so I knelled on the floor unable to stand any more.
My sister had me go lay on the couch to wait for the paramedic, at which time I was dehydrating, "Water..someone please I need water" Whiling laying back on the couch I stared up at the ceiling, and thought to myself "so this is what it's like to die" It felt like I was at the edge of life, standing at the doorway to death and that at any moment I could cross over, and that would be that.
I felt like I hadn't had water in 3 weeks, finally my sister got me some and it helped me relax a bit. The paramedics arrived, I told them what happened and they took my pulse, one of them asked if I'd ever had a medical emergency and I replied "I'm having one now" with a sarcastic smile as I tried to stay calm and humorous but he didn't seem too amused and asked me again verbatim, I said no.
They had me lay back on our bench and asked me to relax, which I thought I was relaxing but it turns out my muscles were stiff and I was laying at about a 35 degree angle "relax" i told myself, and after a few seconds fell back against the bench.
They took me to the aid car where they strapped me down to the stretcher and asked me why I was taking the JWH, I told them curiosity. For that moment I thought that I was still in my room on my bed and that everything happening was just a bad dream, that I would wake up in bed and all this would go away.
We arrived at the ER, The nurse there told me to remove my shirt "but you can leave your pants on" she said, I asked "are you disappointed?" Which was shocking to me that I'd even ask that, most likely it was because I was high. She laughed, they did blood work, Electrocardiograms, Xray and put me on Ativan to calm the anxiety, finally sending me home after several hours.
I felt better the first day, a bit disassociated still and foggy minded, I figured that the worse was over, but I was wrong. The next night I couldn't sleep well, I was paranoid and believed something was under my bed watching me, logically I knew there wasn't but instinctively I felt that there was.
Then the panic attacks started, the panic attacks got worse day after day until the second week where I momentarily slipped into what I could only explain as psychosis, it felt like I completely lost contact with myself, with reality and had thoughts of chopping my arms off while sitting in a chair or in bed shaking, going out of my mind. At night the right side of my face went numb, my right arm was tingly, a few days later my left side went numb and tingly and I could feel my right side again, during one night I woke up feeling like someone had electrocuted my brain.
The only thing that relaxed my anxiety was chocolate, or warm water, I believe I was having withdrawals or that for some reason my brain wasn't producing enough dopamine or serotonin.
I tried to take a walk, get fresh air and during the walk my right arm went numb and paralyzed so I had to stop for a minute to let my body catch up. The feeling came back and I went home. Still waking up in night sweats, still paranoid and experiencing heavy anxiety panic attacks I decided to go back to the ER to make sure everything was alright. Once I got there the anxiety symptoms went away but they prescribed Ativan for me which I haven't taken as I read it's highly addictive as well.
It's been 1 month and the anxiety has gone, the brain fog is still there a bit but not too bad, mostly I have tinnitus which is irritating when I try to sleep, and my muscles twitch a lot, and my heart pauses frequently, lub-dub-lub-dub-lub-dub---------lub-dub-lub-dub-lub-dub-lub-dub------------lub-dub-lub-dub...
And then...
I got the hospital bill, I'm unemployed and have no insurance so it was $5000 for the ER, $35 for the ekg, $600 for the doctor, $600 for the second visit and I'm expecting more bills from the second visit for the doctor that time too.
With no money, no insurance, I think the hell of this trip has just began.
overall it taught me to be more careful, I can always take MORE of something but I can never take less, start small and work up. I was stupid and careless and because of my ignorance, screwed up an entire month of my life, possibly more.
The muscle twitches haven't gone away, and at times I still feel disassociated, get headaches and fevers which aren't fevers. I feel hot but when I take my temperature it's at 98.0degrees, my anxiety is higher now than it used to be also.
Be wise and look before you leap.
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Bummer! That's one occasion where it would have been good if you'd had a panic attack sometime before in your life. Then you would have recognized it right away and wouldn't have had to call the paramedics or anything... Of course, it was probably a mix of a panic attack plus the JWH effects, so even if you had experience with a panic attack, you still might have called them...
I've been considering trying the JWHs myself.. you have made be reconsider that. 
Everything you describe is textbook panic disorder, though. If you are still having panic attacks or if they start again in the future, you might want to see a psychiatrist to go on an SSRI temporarily (e.g. 6 months). They do work, but take about a month for full effects and frequently have minor side effects, so you probably won't want to stay on them for long (and to go off them you will need to slowly reduce your dose to avoid discontinuation symptoms). SSRIs basically act like training wheels on a bike to give your brain time to get back to the way it is supposed to be working.
Best of luck, friend!
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 Re: My first time trying JWH-018/073 [Re: 100Coins]
#12700890 - 06/07/10 01:59 AM (3 years, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks! Hey, by all means try it but don't be stupid like me, try a SMALL dose very very small. You can always add more, but can't take too much back away.
If I could I would do it again but I'd try a lot less. I was supposed to use a pinch and I used practically a scoop.
what I'm mainly having still are muscle spasms, which are ticking me off because it's annoying.
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MOD EDIT: No supplier links.
Edited by Cactusdan (06/07/10 08:26 PM)
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mod edit: no sources.
Edited by Annom (06/07/10 08:27 PM)
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Why do mods always have linkphobia or sourcephobias I don't quite understand it. People often say "Use google to find it" Google is a source but it is never removed, you know? It seems more like an OCD related thing than anything else to me, can someone please explain?
I'm not trying to sound like I'm mad at this specific mod but I thought of all the places on the web where a person could talk and have freedom to speak is a forum like this, a more open minded, human forum.
It's just upsetting to see that the ability for a person to express them self freely has even been removed from places like this, where you think you'd be safe from all that "man keepin you down" stuff
Anyways, in closing I'm actually glad over-all since I don't think anyone should use a research chemical, man just get the real deal if you want to try it.
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i would never be a guinea pig. da herb is plenty good for me. 
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Hah, I actually just ordered some -018 today from what I hope is a good source. Kind of anxious about it now, though.
My deal is that I am on probation with randoms and still want to get high.
The ironic part is that I haven't been on the shroomery for a long time and didn't even discover this stuff until this week when I only have 2 1/2 months to go.
Still excited that I'll get to get high for a couple months before I can toke again, but I will definitely be cautious about it.
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Quote:
RegisteredUser said:
Why do mods always have linkphobia or sourcephobias I don't quite understand it. People often say "Use google to find it" Google is a source but it is never removed, you know? It seems more like an OCD related thing than anything else to me, can someone please explain?
I'm not trying to sound like I'm mad at this specific mod but I thought of all the places on the web where a person could talk and have freedom to speak is a forum like this, a more open minded, human forum.
It's just upsetting to see that the ability for a person to express them self freely has even been removed from places like this, where you think you'd be safe from all that "man keepin you down" stuff
Anyways, in closing I'm actually glad over-all since I don't think anyone should use a research chemical, man just get the real deal if you want to try it.
And what if someone uses that link and gets tainted sh1t this next time and dies?
After that, Forums like this wont exist AT ALL. 
For one thing, Liability.
When wondering about business, always consider liability first.
We could then discuss the fact that Shroomery does allow for sponsers to place advertising... For a fee.
For all we know, You are being paid.
Why would the forum or its sponsers care to have you posting up freebies for the competition.
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[quote]sploogepanz55 said:
^^^ haha what a bummer, shad0w. All this talk about dying.
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[quote]psychoanomaly said:
And so, I feel your intolerance and phobia towards rectal administration of psychedelics is a violation of the music of the spheres  [/quote]
[quote]shroom_sandwich said:
I could have sworn I seen a thread about a guy saying his dog killed the neighbors chickens earlier....[/quote]
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Re: Where to buy? [Re: Shad0w]
#12746659 - 06/15/10 02:29 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Geez, that is some rough stuff. But here's a little good news (speaking from a similar experience). The hospital cannot squeeze blood from a stone, and they know that. Call the hospital and tell them you are flat-ass broke, you have zero dollars, nothing, nada. You have no way to pay them ANYTHING. In a word, you are indigent. I think you'll be surprised how much that bill will come down. After all, they are legally required to treat emergency patients regardless of their ability to pay for treatment. You'll probably still owe them something and that will suck, but dollars to donuts you'll end up paying less than 25% of that and what you pay will be over a period of many months.
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