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 koppie
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 How real can psychotic delusions be? 
#12660158 - 05/31/10 12:08 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Partly inspired by a guy who comes into our store with strange conspiracy theories way beyond the most far out things you read in these forums, and partly by watching madness portrayed in movies like American Psycho, Fight Club, A Beautiful Mind and Proof, I'm just wondering how real delusions can be.
Do advanced schizophrenics really see things and people that aren't there, or is it just that they interpret reality in a distorted mixed up paranoid way?
When they say that they have important high paying jobs, do they really believe that and vividly hallucinate that reality, or do they simply say it because they don't know who they are any more and want to cover it by trying to sound important?
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: koppie]
#12660640 - 05/31/10 02:22 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know someone who has delusions that people are coming into his apartment while he is asleep and/or gone. He has elaborate scenarios of how this is all happening. They get his voice mail and know when he is out of the house. They sneak in the back door when he opens the front door, so they don't trip the alarm. They poison his food so he has to eat at restaurants all the time.
He isn't faking it. He only does this when off medication.
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 appleorange
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12660654 - 05/31/10 02:26 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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My grandmother is schizophrenic and she does many of the same things the OP talked about, believes people are sneaking into her house, thinks there is a 5 foot tall bird which tells her to do things etc...
It seems to me that she actually doesn't see these things outside of her, but it's all taking place in her head.
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: appleorange]
#12660894 - 05/31/10 03:20 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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My grandmother did wacky things, but she isn't schizophrenic. She used to talk to a plant and she thought my mom was someone who looked like my mom, but really wasn't.
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koppie
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12661174 - 05/31/10 04:25 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anonymous said:
and she thought my mom was someone who looked like my mom, but really wasn't.
I have heard of that. It's the Capgras Delusion.
Since posting the OP I have been reading posts on this site which coincidentally (or is it? ) was linked to in the Pub, and it almost appears that some do not only hear but see menacing figures when off their meds.
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12661191 - 05/31/10 04:30 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous said:
My grandmother did wacky things, but she isn't schizophrenic. She used to talk to a plant and she thought my mom was someone who looked like my mom, but really wasn't.
Sounds like Capgras delusion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion
Edit: lol Beat me to it.
Edited by Elementium (05/31/10 04:30 PM)
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: appleorange]
#12661229 - 05/31/10 04:41 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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appleorange said:
thinks there is a 5 foot tall bird which tells her to do things
That's pretty awesome. Does she actually hallucinate this bird, or just hear it? Does it ever sing like a regular bird, or does it just talk?
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: nooneman]
#12661253 - 05/31/10 04:47 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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nooneman said:
Quote:
appleorange said:
thinks there is a 5 foot tall bird which tells her to do things
That's pretty awesome. Does she actually hallucinate this bird, or just hear it? Does it ever sing like a regular bird, or does it just talk?
She'll point to the bird in the room and actually get scared, but I don't think she visually sees the bird. I'm pretty sure the bird is just inside her head.
But yeah, the bird talks and everything. We asked what kind of bird it is and she says it's a robin.
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: koppie]
#12661325 - 05/31/10 05:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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To the person suffering from the delusions, they can be very real.
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: ToiletDuk]
#12661958 - 05/31/10 07:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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100% real. Insight may be gained into psychotic delusions by undertaking a dissociative binge; re: Lilly.
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Re: How real can psychotic delusions be? [Re: deCypher]
#12662695 - 05/31/10 09:10 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Indeed, one can have full-on waking hallucinations. The mind is that powerful.
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