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 psychology of sexual fetish 
#12656339 - 05/30/10 05:18 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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for example, a male or female who gets off on being utterly degraded verbally.
pure hedonism, or something deeper?
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 Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: yogabunny]
#12656352 - 05/30/10 05:21 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Most who like being treated like shit were treated that way as a child. It's really messed up, but Freud was right about our childhoods determining how we turn out as sexual beings.
Pure hedonists get off more on being in control than being verbally abused, from what I know about hedonism anyway.
Either way, there's nothing wrong with it unless they start taking it out of the bedroom, you know?
By the way, how are you liking our new forum, yogabunny? XD
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: Synesthetic]
#12656419 - 05/30/10 05:34 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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i don't know the answer to that question , but i remember picking up this girl at the beach who told me she wanted to be beaten up and smacked around while having sex and that she wanted multiple guys to hurt her at the same time, the first thing i thought was that this girl is messed up in the head and has had a pretty messed up life.
then me and my roommate had sex with her.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: jim617]
#12656537 - 05/30/10 05:54 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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perhaps sex is a power play? so sayeth Foucault at any rate. 
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: Synesthetic]
#12656595 - 05/30/10 06:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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That would make sense in some cases Synesthetic...but in other cases, there's no real way to figure why it would stand out.
Like Golden Showers, Chains & Knives (just loving those on their own but integrate them only makes it so much more), foot fetishes as a few examples.
Alot of others can be related to childhood like S&M (and related), anything oral fixation related, bestiality, scat, clothing and RP.
Really good question there Yoga Bunny...makes ya wonder.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: Synesthetic]
#12656609 - 05/30/10 06:08 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Synesthetic said:
Most who like being treated like shit were treated that way as a child. It's really messed up, but Freud was right about our childhoods determining how we turn out as sexual beings.
Pure hedonists get off more on being in control than being verbally abused, from what I know about hedonism anyway.
Either way, there's nothing wrong with it unless they start taking it out of the bedroom, you know?
By the way, how are you liking our new forum, yogabunny? XD
im loving it!
this is not the case with the person i am thinking of, which makes me super perplexed as to their distinct desire to be verbally degraded/defiled by their sexual partners.
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i wouldnt wanna pee on a lady, but if she was really hott id let her pee on me.
i notice that my fetishes change, i get bored of one fetish and move on to another over time.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: yogabunny]
#12656848 - 05/30/10 06:59 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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yogabunny said:
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Synesthetic said:
Most who like being treated like shit were treated that way as a child. It's really messed up, but Freud was right about our childhoods determining how we turn out as sexual beings.
Pure hedonists get off more on being in control than being verbally abused, from what I know about hedonism anyway.
Either way, there's nothing wrong with it unless they start taking it out of the bedroom, you know?
By the way, how are you liking our new forum, yogabunny? XD
im loving it!
this is not the case with the person i am thinking of, which makes me super perplexed as to their distinct desire to be verbally degraded/defiled by their sexual partners.
Are you sure the person in question wasn't belittled/humiliated/verbally abused by someone she loved (ex lover, family, etc.)? If s/he really wasn't then maybe it was the other way. They could have been treated so well that now they like to surrender to people for pleasure. If it's none of the above, then it probably is some weird form of hedonism.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: Synesthetic]
#12657146 - 05/30/10 07:55 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was always called a fag when i was a kid and now i like to have sex with men... go figure...
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It's all Freud's fault.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: Synesthetic]
#12657175 - 05/30/10 08:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's all Freud's fault.
god damn coke head telling me why my sexual behavior is the way it is. I wonder what he was into.
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I was always called a fag when i was a kid and now i like to have sex with men... go figure...
Interesting..
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: Brugman]
#12659083 - 05/31/10 03:27 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brugman said:
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WWCmycologist said:
I was always called a fag when i was a kid and now i like to have sex with men... go figure...
Interesting..
So I was balls deep in this guy's ass one night and he turns to me and asks for a kiss. Damn, I say to him. What a fag.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: deCypher]
#12665833 - 06/01/10 12:43 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think Freud was right about people getting stuck in certain stages of their sexual development, leading to anal/oral fixation and the like.
As for the "I want more abuse" theory, it could be right, but not in all cases. Victims of abuse go one of three ways:
1) They become obsessed with abuse and want more of it, becoming submissive
2) They become obsessed with abuse and do everything in their power to avoid it, becoming aggressive
3) They confront their issues and find a happy medium where they are comfortable doing a variety of things without going to dangerous extremes.
I'm in category 3, except on BDSM night. 
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: yogabunny]
#12666188 - 06/01/10 01:46 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was just trying to figure this out the other night.
Because I saw a post about fetishes, which made me think... I don't really have any
I mean, I like lots of things. But I'm not overly obsessed with any one thing in particular.
I probably was at some point or another, just because it was something new. But the newness wore off and I moved on to something else.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: maerigan]
#12666730 - 06/01/10 03:40 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know that the foot fetish can be explained neurologically in that the somatosensory cortex area that receives signals from the genitals is adjacent to the area that receives signals from the feet. There is speculation that these regions may get crosswired, thus triggering an unnatural attraction to the feet.
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I think Freud was right about people getting stuck in certain stages of their sexual development
Is it possible to get unstuck?
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: deCypher]
#12668114 - 06/01/10 08:14 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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With therapy and a positive attitude, anything's possible.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: yogabunny]
#12725280 - 06/11/10 11:19 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This topic questions the psychology, but I want to say something about the physiology..
It is very likely a result of dopamine levels in the brain and how sensitive the person is to them. This is why SSRI's can completely kill your sex drive, while dopamine agonists and other dopamine acting drugs have well described side effects including hypersexuality and cross dressing.. There are reports of people taking these drugs and becoming addicted to hookers(no tiger woods jokes).
So in my opinion it seems like these fetishes arise out of an extreme degree of libido or maybe the desire for a thrill after they have been desensitized to "normal" sex.
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: PowerTrip]
#12725410 - 06/11/10 12:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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And people start liking sushi after desensitizing themselves to pastrami. 
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Re: psychology of sexual fetish [Re: yogabunny]
#12815070 - 06/28/10 12:30 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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yogabunny said:
for example, a male or female who gets off on being utterly degraded verbally.
pure hedonism, or something deeper?
Oral sadistic personalities are probably best described in psychoanalytical literature. See Freud, Wilhelm Stekel, Melanie Klein or Karl Abraham for those who use oral aggression.
"Sigmund Freud made masochism and—to a lesser degree—sadism core parts of psychoanalysis. In Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality he called the tendency to inflict and receive pain during sex "the most common and important of all perversions" . He also pointed out that both tendencies commonly occurred in the same individual.
Freud changed his theories on the genesis of sadism and masochism repeatedly, first stating that masochism only arose as a form of sadism against the self. He later introduced such concepts as "primary" and "secondary" masochism and sub-forms such as "feminine" and "moral" masochism. He also saw guilt as an important factor and integrated both tendencies into his theory of psychosexual development. Put shortly, they were assumed to be a sign of incomplete or incorrect sexual development in the child." -Wiki
http://www.enotes.com/psychoanalysis-encyclopedia/oral-sadistic-stage
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