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 Re: Colloidal silver [Re: HorseBox]
#12090562 - 02/24/10 04:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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They do that - I wipe them off while they're still wet to get most of it and clean them gently with a soft green scratchy pad here and there. Stuff that settles in the bottom I don't shake back up either.
The other night I messed up and fell asleep - 7 hours later I had the strongest batch I have ever seen and have been watering it back down to just "super strong". Didn't mean to and thought "dang!" but did it anyway and sure won't have to make any more for a bit!
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: curenado]
#12096028 - 02/25/10 01:40 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I took two swigs of colloidal silver yesterday one in the daytime and one before going to bed and although I didn't wake up fully cured (I still had an itchy nose and it was runny for about an hour or two) I'm fully cured right now. It felt like it was a bad cold that was coming on. The problem with these kind of experiments is its impossible for me to know if it was the colloidal silver that put an end to the cold or if it was my immune system. I speculate it was a combination of the two considering the fact that the last cold I had which was last year around christmas lasted 3 weeks and it only ended when I got a prescription for antibiotics from the doctor.
Although I don't feel like intentionally contracting a so called incurable disease such as hepatitis c that would be an ideal virus to test this stuff out on. I know someone who has hep c so I'm going to talk him into being a lab rat.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: HorseBox]
#12096284 - 02/25/10 02:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it were me and all I was using for the HepC (I use 10 items on my Hep patients) I would use a tablespoon 3x/day for 3 days/off one, 3 days/off one until my next blood test to smack at that viral load. You and your friend may be surprised...
Between the mushies, essiac and silver I have used commercial antibiotics 4 times in the last 12 years. All but one of those times was because I was afraid the person would not take care of themselves and once because it was cheaper for someone waiting on an appointment for a dentist for a month and we bearing the cost of gourmet treatment.
We use it in pinkeye (topical) as well as we have folks who come to us because antibiotics to them are undesirable. IV and subcutaneous use in my mind are not for amateurs and have other considerations...no sub-c in humans but sometimes in the water of sick and dehydrated animals when giving fluids like that anyway.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: curenado]
#12100733 - 02/26/10 08:23 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is this guy the only blue man thats been interviewed?
Am I the only one that thinks this is pretty cool? Of course it would be difficult to operate in society being this blatantly different but putting that aside I wouldn't have any problems being blue.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: HorseBox]
#12102740 - 02/26/10 02:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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? Don't know if he was the only one but I believe this was put out just prior to "H1N1" along with some other anti-silver "public warnings" - I suppose so that folks would rush the more to vaccines that didn't turn out to be worth much at best...
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: curenado]
#12112405 - 02/28/10 09:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just found this info which explains the theory behind making this stuff.
http://silverions.tripod.com/theory/cstheory.htm
They even explain what the black stuff on the electrodes are (silver hydroxide). That explanation makes sense but I can't really verify the accuracy of it. Today I left the batteries making the stuff for about 3 hours and when I looked at it one of the electrodes looked like it grew hair there was so much black ash on it. Thats a lot of silver hydroxide. I heard that silver hydroxide is so instable that it doesn't last long. What does it turn into silver oxide?
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: HorseBox]
#12112444 - 02/28/10 09:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Horsebox said:
"Today I left the batteries making the stuff for about 3 hours and when I looked at it one of the electrodes looked like it grew hair there was so much black ash on it. Thats a lot of silver hydroxide."
Normal IME
"I heard that silver hydroxide is so instable that it doesn't last long. What does it turn into silver oxide?"
If you mean why - I thought it was because of the "O2" in the H20...if you do mean what I thought that was because it's so close to the 'trode some of it remains and gets converted, sticks while some floats away and lacks proximity to convert...I think...electro-genius may have thoughts...
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: curenado]
#12147236 - 03/05/10 07:27 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just came across bandages with silver membranes
http://www.silverlon.com/adhesive_strip.html
"Only Easy Ag®/Silverlon® have been tested effective against MRSA Bacteria including: Staph Aureus, Staph Epidermidis, and Pseudomonas Aeruginosa."
Not bad. This thread has become pointless since curadeno pointed out that colloidal silver kills fungi so I'll restart the thread in the science and technology forum.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: HorseBox]
#12164326 - 03/08/10 11:30 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Since 1998, Potters for Peace has been assisting in the production worldwide of a low-tech, low-cost, colloidal silver-enhanced ceramic water purifier (CWP). Field experience and clinical test results have shown this filter to effectively eliminate approximately 99.88% of most water born disease agents.
WHAT IS THE CWP
It is a simple, pressed bucket shape 11” wide by 10” deep, made with a mix of local terra-cotta clay and sawdust or other combustible, such as rice husks. The simplest press utilizes a hand-operated hydraulic truck jack and two-piece aluminum mold.
After firing to about 860 deg. C. the filter is coated with colloidal silver. The combination of fine pore size, resulting from milled, screened materials, and the bactericidal properties of colloidal silver produce an effective filter.
A 1.5 to 2.5 liter per hour rate of filtration is determined by the combination of clay/combustible mix and firing temperature.
For use the fired, treated filter element is placed in a five gallon plastic or ceramic receptacle with a lid and faucet. Pricing for ready to use filter units is determined by local production costs and is usually between $15-25 with the basic plastic receptacle. Replacement filter elements will cost $4 to $6. A basic production facility with three or four workers can produce about fifty filters a day.
HISTORY
The filter design used by PFP was developed by Dr. Fernando Mazariegos of the Central American Industrial Research Institute (ICAITI) in Guatemala, in 1981. The goal was to make bacterially contaminated water safe for the poorest of the poor by developing a low cost filter which could be fabricated at the community level.
In 1994 AFA or Family Foundation of the Americas, a Guatemalan organization, became interested in the ceramic water filter when it was found that other strategies were not yielding effective results. Chlorine tablets in rural communities were not well accepted; health complications associated with chlorine misuse caused additional concern. Boiled water often wasn’t effective when households failed to boil water long enough to purify it. AFA carried out a one year follow-up study on the initial Mazariegos-led filter project, concluding that including this filter into rural health education efforts reduced the incidence of diarrhea in participating households by as much as 50 percent.
See “Contra la Morbilidad Infantil” in the Supporting Documents section.
In October 1998, Hurricane Mitch tore through Central America. It was one of the most destructive hurricanes ever recorded, affecting millions of people. Safe water was urgently needed as supply systems (already of borderline capacity and efficiency) had been badly damaged. This prompted Potters for Peace to begin a Ceramic Water Filter production workshop in Nicaragua using the Mazariegos design.
In the first six months over 5000 filters were distributed through non-governmental organizations. The workshop, called Filtron, evolved into a worker-owned cooperative and is now incorporated as a privately owned business.
Potters for Peace has since provided consultation and training to set up production facilities around the world: Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Cambodia, Bangladesh, Ghana, El Salvador, the Darfur region of Sudan, Kenya, Benin, Yemen, Nigeria, Tanzania, Peru, Somaliland and others.
The CWP has been cited by the United Nations’ Appropriate Technology Handbook, and tens of thousands of filters have been distributed worldwide by organizations such as International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent, Doctors Without Borders, UNICEF, Plan International, Project Concern International, Oxfam and USAID.
We have financed or assisted in laboratory testing and field studies of the filter with various institutions, among them: MIT, Tulane University, University of Colorado and University of North Carolina.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: anonjon]
#12164487 - 03/08/10 12:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anonjon  Great Post!
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: curenado]
#12168174 - 03/08/10 11:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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er sorry, I should have cited that. it's a quotation from the website of that potters group mentioned above.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: anonjon]
#12420282 - 04/19/10 11:23 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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and now for something totally unexpected
found a paper where they are using pleurotus to transform silver nitrate into colloidal silver (or rather silver nanoparticles)
http://www.chalcogen.infim.ro/623_Nithya-Ragun-sept5.pdf
Quote:
Microbial silver nanoparticles have been known to have bactericidal effects but the
antimicrobial mechanism have not been clearly revealed. The use of microorganisms in
the synthesis of nanoparticles emerges as an ecofriendly and exciting approach. In this
study biosynthesis of silver nanoparticles using Pleurotus sajor caju fungi and its
antimicrobial studies has been reported. The extra cellular mechanism of silver
nanoparticle creation was investigated by UV-VIS spectroscopy and electron microscopy.
The SEM study showed the formation of silver nanoparticle in the range of 5-
50nm.Obtained silver nanoparticle showed the antimicrobial activity against the Gram
positive and Gram negative bacteria.
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: c-ray]
#12509356 - 05/05/10 06:29 AM (2 years, 22 days ago) |
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anonjon: Heres a video I came across a while ago
sounds like the same technology.
Just thought I'd give an update real quick. Since I started this thread I've used colloidal silver to cure an ear infection and gum infection. It seems colloidal silver would be a safer chemical for killing bacteria in the gums than flouride.
Edited by HorseBox (05/05/10 06:39 AM)
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: HorseBox]
#12518956 - 05/06/10 07:03 PM (2 years, 21 days ago) |
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C-Ray - Wow! That's one of the things I love about this place! It's like having a sqaud of people researching stuff putting all the cumulative hours into one "Borg" (lol)
That's something I would never have thought of.
I also thought silver was bacteriocidal because it was a + charged particle that found bacteria like a magnet and stuck to them "short-circuiting" their ability to respirate, as it were, which they do by a chemical exchange. It suffocates them on contact. Is what I thought...
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Re: Colloidal silver [Re: curenado]
#12534462 - 05/09/10 09:13 PM (2 years, 18 days ago) |
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My grandmother has been drinking this stuff for years. You have to ingest seriously crazy amounts of it to suffer from Argyria.
From what I've read it's pretty effective in-vitro but there hasn't been much research on it's effects once ingested. I imagine it's pretty effective topically.
Back at a place I used to work someone forgot to put a back flow valve on our boiler. A bunch of super heated water back flowed onto the cold water pipes and when I went to wash some dog crap off my arm it came out as nearly steam. Melted the skin from the inside of my wrist clean down to my elbow right off like it was fucking plastic wrap.
One of the most painful experiences of my life. I cleaned the wound twice a day with sterile saline and applied silver cream to it liberally then covered in nonstick teflon pads then wrapped the whole thing up with vet-wrap. (ace bandage like material).
Despite having 3rd and 2nd degree burns I don't even have a scar now.
Just because something works in-vitro or topically doesn't mean it's worth a shit ingested and I doubt it's healthy for your digestive track either, by killing off your healthy intestinal flora.
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Quote:
jimbotron said:
Yeah seriously do not let that stuff get on you, too much exposure and you will be permanently smurfed.
wrong, i been taking it for 3 years. you need to use homemade ointment made from colloidal to be smurfed. and it has to be made with over the recommended level of silver. you are talking about paul karason. the smurf man. lol.
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Interesting stuff. I never considered using it for mushroom cultivation but I've just recently gotten into the mushrooms. 
Where I work during the day, I blend a number of formulas that utilize silver. In the past, we used a true colloidal silver solution and lots, and LOTS of it. We've used ionic, the colloidal and a nanoparticle powder as well. Basically, we've covered the silver thing, at least for what we're doing.
Here are a few thoughts that come to mind that may(or may not) be of value to someone here.
The DIY method with the electrodes is not producing a true colloidal silver solution.
Particle size/count matters!! Think surface area...
A properly formulated silver solution will kill bacteria and we've verified this in the lab.
Scent eliminators for hunters are now using silver technology. The bacteria on our bodies produce waste and the waste is why we "stink". Kill the bacteria, no more "stink". This technology is patented. 
During testing, I've seen petri dishes treated with a certain PPM(can't recall what it was now) on one half and laid out open to grow. One side grew and the treated side remained pristine.
Now I wonder if a light misting with lets say a 50ppm mix on top of a freshly put together tub or casing would act as a bit of a contam barrier?
Here is one supplier that has a very unique product that is probably the highest quality product in their niche. I can't verify their claims or anything but I can tell you while they have a "unique" website, they do know their silver water! If it's a problem posting external links, I apologize now. 
http://www.invive.com/
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> Now I wonder if a light misting with lets say a 50ppm mix on top of a freshly put together tub or casing would act as a bit of a contam barrier?
The thing is that bacteria is rarely a problem. And when it is the problem occurs at the very beginning due to incomplete sterilization.
Bacteria are competitive pests, that is they don't attack myc, just compete for substrate. Most molds are the same, but the worst of them, trich actually parasitizes the myc.
So bacteria is not really a problem, except for people that don't do their sterilization properly. Even then when it happens it's at a point prior to colonization, so there's nothing to be saved yet, and it's easier to just redo the jar.
-FF
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