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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #12579937 - 05/17/10 05:49 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

It's tough that the CDC, NIH, and so on haven't thrown out the rest of the research on the basis of the one study you found.

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety.htm

The preponderance of the evidence suggests that fluoridation is safe and effective.

Do you believe vaccines cause autism too?


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Re: Long term effects of Fluoride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2] * 1
    #12579947 - 05/17/10 05:50 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

The only risk you have from drinking fluoridated water is the possibility of developing dental fluorosis (faint white to brown staining of the teeth) which is purely of aesthetic concern.  Studies have consistently failed to prove any links with adverse health effects.

The graph below shows the dmft scores (measure of dental decay) in Ayr in which the water has never been fluoridated and Kilmarn where the water was fluoridated briefly.  The reduction is dental decay is obvious and the increase after water fluoridation ceased is evidence for the benefits it provides to oral health.  It is also has a universal effect in society so the less advantaged, to whom good oral hygiene may be less well instilled, benefit.



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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #12580313 - 05/17/10 06:49 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Kid_Orgo said:
The preponderance of the evidence suggests that fluoridation is safe and effective.




And how do you back this claim up? The CDC? Check your references..

The majority of studies clearly indicate that fluoridation is toxic and unsafe for consumption and systemic use.

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #12580378 - 05/17/10 06:58 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

You've cut and pasted the bibliography of "fluoridealert.org"

Color me convinced. The CDC's credentials don't have anything on the Fluoride Action Network.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #12580385 - 05/17/10 06:59 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

So the incetive is to continue poisoning people, or for chemical companies to get rich by selling fluoride?  Sounds like you left your tinfoil hat at home.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: fapjack]
    #12580450 - 05/17/10 07:09 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

How do you find out if there is fluoride in your water? Do municipalities make it a known fact if they are fluoridating the water supply? Do you know for a fact that your water is/is not treated?


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #12580532 - 05/17/10 07:20 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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The majority of studies clearly indicate that fluoridation is toxic and unsafe for consumption and systemic use.





All you have done is pasted a load of study titles.  What conclusions were actually drawn from them and how many of them have been peer reviewed and/or published?


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Psil]
    #12581315 - 05/17/10 09:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I can't wait till i move to Europe.  I'm going to talk such shit about americans its going to be great.

and the organic food will actually be organic.  GMOs will be labeled.  pretty mind blowing.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2]
    #12581324 - 05/17/10 09:26 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Europe isn't any less fucked up than the US, its just fucked up in different ways.  The problems isn't geographical, its just that you happen to belong to a fucked up species.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: fapjack]
    #12581363 - 05/17/10 09:32 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i acknowledge this, but it'll be nice to have a different set of problems.  maybe i'll move to greece and bitch like crazy.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2]
    #12581384 - 05/17/10 09:35 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Or move to the northern balkans and commit a little genocide.  Europe has it all!


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: DieCommie]
    #12581394 - 05/17/10 09:37 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I have Tom's natural fluoride free toothpaste :laugh:


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #12581496 - 05/17/10 09:55 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Mullenix 1995; Neurotoxicology and Teratology






Rats should stay away from flouride.

There is little (if any) conclusive evidence that flouridated drinking water it harmful.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Kada]
    #12581595 - 05/17/10 10:17 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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That the topic belongs in the Conspiracy Forum. :shrug:





:rofl2:

I did not know there was a conspiracy forum!

I thought you were being a smart ass, which would of been 100x's funnier.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: badchad]
    #12581701 - 05/17/10 10:38 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Mullenix 1995; Neurotoxicology and Teratology






Rats should stay away from flouride.

There is little (if any) conclusive evidence that flouridated drinking water it harmful.




Yeaah -- but I heard the jury was still out on this "science" thing.

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Without_Ego]
    #12581778 - 05/17/10 10:48 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

SSRIS are related to flouride too and I hate those.
BOO FLOURIDE!
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