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repotting peyote
    #12547835 - 05/12/10 11:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

i decided to replant all of my cactus so after reading lots the last 2 days i am getting the conclusion that peyote likes to be rootbound. i repotted my l. williamsi which now might be too big a pot? wondering your opinions? the soil is 25% sand, 75% soil. and a bit of compost. i do have stones at the bottom for drainage, and after what i have read i will put lots of pebbles on top.

for my ariocarpus i am wondering if the pot i was going to transfer in is way too big?

i was considering the possibility of pupping.thanks in advance.



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Re: repotting peyote [Re: bmarley3434]
    #12547856 - 05/12/10 12:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Your plan sounds fine, don't worry about it.


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Re: repotting peyote [Re: bmarley3434]
    #12547937 - 05/12/10 12:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That soil is terrible for Ariocarpus, and probably not much better for the Lophophora.

The soil these grow in has very little organic matter, and putting an older Ariocarpus in soil like that may cause it to up and die with no rhyme or reason.

Look into a better soil mixture with more minerals.

Also, where did you read that rootbound is better for Lophophora?

Lack of rootspace will cause the plant to stall and possibly become unhealthy, IME anyways :shrug:


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Re: repotting peyote [Re: Cactusdan]
    #12547998 - 05/12/10 12:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

my conclusion was that they like little room so that the soil can dry out. and that the taproot grows so slowly that its virtually unnecessary to repot. i havent found much information specific to lophs or san pedro on repotting. any info or leads would be greatly appreciated.

can i add garden pebbles to my mix, and im guessing lots of perilite.. they have been growing for years in the mixture previously mentioned. the loph is doing good, the ariocarpus seems to always be a little dry. but did flower last year.


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Re: repotting peyote [Re: bmarley3434]
    #12548066 - 05/12/10 12:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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my conclusion was that they like little room so that the soil can dry out.




sort of.  people use small pots to allow them to dry out, yes.  it is in no way because the platns enjoy being root bound...

though i urge against how you did it, you can certainly go ahead and keep it like that, but you will probabyl only water once a month in the dry hot season....

the soil needs to dry out, cant stay wet or you risk rot.  now your basically better off having the roots wet/dry on/off.  like 2 days wet 2 days dry kind of scenario.  not 2 days wet then wait 3 weeks for the rest of the soil that isnt touching the roots to dry out before its safe to water again...or even worse 3 weeks of wet.

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and that the taproot grows so slowly that its virtually unnecessary to repot.




tap roots do not grow plants....they store moisture for the plants.  its the fine hair roots that take in water.  this is why many growers trim the taps to promote more fibrous roots. no matter what your strategy, if you limit fine roots, which have fine hairs to take in water, you limit growth.  now you dont need 10inchs of free soil to promote these roots with peyote, as they dont have long roots by any stretch....for a 5cm pot i repot to 7cm...for example.  repotting is also a good way of replenishing the substrate.

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i havent found much information specific to lophs or san pedro on repotting. any info or leads would be greatly appreciated.



the best piece of advice you will get in this regard is:  they are not best in the same situation.  san pedro can grow in compost...sow growing tap root species need dry well drained LOOSE soils to truly crank out.

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they have been growing for years in the mixture previously mentioned. the loph is doing good,



if that mix is tried and true in your climate, great.  but i would highly suggest cutting down on the *quantity* used as it will stay wet for quite a while, which is not good for lophophora...or ariocarpus.


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Re: repotting peyote [Re: kadakuda]
    #12552475 - 05/13/10 12:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

that is some pretty shitty peat based soil. go with coco. lots of perlite and lots of diatomaceous earth and sand. you should be goledn with that.


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Re: repotting peyote [Re: ferrel_human]
    #12556318 - 05/13/10 06:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

i use 50% compost 50% perlite for san Pedro's they grow like crazy but you have to water like every other day. i don't know if it is true or not but i thought i read that you need gypsum or lime or a alkaline soil to get flowers for lophs :confused: i would advise on a smaller pot though


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Re: repotting peyote [Re: highlife]
    #12560352 - 05/14/10 07:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

any trich and peyote will grow very well in a more organic based compost. and will benfit from weekly watering and monthly feeding. but as dan says youre lovely Ariocarpus wil not last in peat based soil.
IT WILL DIE A SLOW DEATH. dont let it die cos its lovely.


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