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 Lennybernadino
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 How do I make coco coir out of coconuts for the casing layer? 
#12460664 - 04/26/10 06:05 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Well its all int he title really, I live in a place that produces a shitton of coconuts, but no modern fiirst world gardening srtores or pet shops to sell coco coir or peat moss or any of that stuff,SOOOO how do I make coco coir out of coconuts? I simply do not have other casing materials available to me .
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12460705 - 04/26/10 06:12 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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I don't exactly use coco-coir the product I use is actually like 1"x1" pieces of coconut husks..I mix this with Hpoo as my spawn and the mycelium will eat right through the coconut..hopefully this gives you an idea..I've also found I get better yields with the coconut husk over coir...I believe because it has been less processed??..E
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: electrics]
#12460719 - 04/26/10 06:15 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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OK so like chip it up that sounds nice and easy for substrate but what about for use as a casing layer?
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12460727 - 04/26/10 06:16 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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You don't need a casing layer for cubes if you spawn to coir, they fruit just great without one.
And coir is no longer popular to use as a casing layer, peat and vermiculite have proven to be the best, coco coir is just too nutritious.
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: electrics]
#12460738 - 04/26/10 06:18 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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one nice. I use those 'mulch' blocks in the garden on occasion with compost might give that a try, so far I have mainly stuck to straw and manure or the small powdered blocks of coir...
Guess the fibrous structure would be a good thing as corn cobs seem to work ok.
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: electrics]
#12460741 - 04/26/10 06:19 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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I am thinking for other mushrooms like Pancyan which I have clonesd from the wild . And to you sterilize it or pasteurize it?
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12460791 - 04/26/10 06:28 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Pasteurize It!! Sterilizing removes vital nutrients and like OP said forget a casing layer...not worth the hassle..if you are growing something besides Cubes..place some crumpled up wax paper over top of the colonized sub and remove when pins start..but I've never heard for the need for a casing layer with any of the different species?? ..E
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: electrics]
#12460834 - 04/26/10 06:35 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Thanks for replying everyoine, crumpled up wax paper can anyone second this as a replacement for a casing layer? Any other replacement ideas? I am doing Pan. Cyanescense and as far as i know it needs a casing layer or perhaps crumpled wax paper .
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12478420 - 04/29/10 05:47 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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bump And what about uysing ant casings in the casing layer? they should at least be clean and very well aerated, used whith verm good humidity.
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12478457 - 04/29/10 05:52 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Pan Cyans need a casing layer. Your best best is to find some Peatmoss and vermiculite. Also pasteurize your casing layers
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Shea25]
#12482490 - 04/30/10 11:11 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Geez I think I made it pretty clear that peat moss is just plain not available, that would be why I am looking for a substitute, Peat moss when unavailable is not a good substitute for peat moss which I need because peat mioss is unavailable .
THERE IS NO PEAT MOSS HERE!!!!
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12482515 - 04/30/10 11:21 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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grab some moss from a tree and pasteurize it?
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12482520 - 04/30/10 11:22 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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LOL!!
eh ya, can you get vermiculite? straight verm should be ok, although you will prob have to keep a closer eye on it's moisture content.
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grab some moss from a tree and pasteurize it?
No, it needs to be well composted etc.. More like soil.
Edited by Nme (04/30/10 11:23 AM)
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Lennybernadino]
#12482667 - 04/30/10 12:19 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
Lennybernadino said:
Geez I think I made it pretty clear that peat moss is just plain not available, that would be why I am looking for a substitute, Peat moss when unavailable is not a good substitute for peat moss which I need because peat mioss is unavailable .
THERE IS NO PEAT MOSS HERE!!!!
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Nme]
#12482673 - 04/30/10 12:21 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Get a cheese grater or a belt sander and grind that coconut to fucking bits xD
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: SN122A]
#12482855 - 04/30/10 01:16 PM (3 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
SN122A said:
one nice. I use those 'mulch' blocks in the garden on occasion with compost might give that a try, so far I have mainly stuck to straw and manure or the small powdered blocks of coir...
Guess the fibrous structure would be a good thing as corn cobs seem to work ok.
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: Bahaga]
#12489242 - 05/01/10 04:44 PM (3 years, 22 days ago) |
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I am looking for commercial production and an increasingly larger scale, would anyone dare try to re-use a casing layer? I guess you do nto need that much but it still runs rather exopensive to ship Peat moss here ,
jEr
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: electrics]
#12489356 - 05/01/10 05:11 PM (3 years, 22 days ago) |
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Quote:
electrics said:
I don't exactly use coco-coir the product I use is actually like 1"x1" pieces of coconut husks..I mix this with Hpoo as my spawn and the mycelium will eat right through the coconut..hopefully this gives you an idea..I've also found I get better yields with the coconut husk over coir...I believe because it has been less processed??..E
I used the husk form the first time i did bulk and got some of my biggest shrooms ever that way. Turns out the largest ones were growing right off the chunks, could be that the chunks held more water
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Re: How do I make coco coir out of coconuts? [Re: dancefloordale]
#12489463 - 05/01/10 05:30 PM (3 years, 22 days ago) |
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How about ant casings for a casing layer? it should be nutritionless clean aerated and if combined whith verm able to hold humidity .
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