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horse manure + ratios
#12445886 - 04/23/10 09:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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i havent really found any good bulk recipes lol
im looking for ratios for a bulk substrate using the following
main ingredient horse manure then adding
verm gypsum coco coir? coffee grounds?
i cant find oyster shell crushed?flour so that out of the question
any help will be appreciated
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12445899 - 04/23/10 09:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, that would make an excellent substrate. I would do gypsum at 10%, verm at 20%, and the others in any amount.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12445986 - 04/23/10 09:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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so like
gypsum 10 verm 20 coffee 5 coc coir 15 manure 50
does that look good
and its for cubes
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446006 - 04/23/10 09:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, that'd work great. You don't have to worry much about the levels of coco or coffee, as both can be used as subs on their own. I just add any amount of either.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446017 - 04/23/10 09:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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how beneficial would oyster shell be is there any substation for it
and what does gypsum do
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446039 - 04/23/10 09:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gypsum is calcium and sulphur, both essential. It's supposed to up your lids a bit. No need for oyster shell, gypsum has your calcium needs covered and won't impose much affect on pH, as the shells would.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446056 - 04/23/10 09:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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alright i get it now
i want to use a 50 gallon tub with two 3 foot T5 florescent tubes in the lid with plastic as a humidity barrier with a vicks cool mist and some other fun things hooked up
but i needed the bulk substrate first lol
thanks for the help skullhuman
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446065 - 04/23/10 09:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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No prob. Are you growing straight in the tubs? There's a good chance you don't need to use a humidifier. I would just cut some holes in the tub and fill it with sub to 4 inches and simply mist as/if needed. Often you can get a great tub without misting at all.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446092 - 04/23/10 09:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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im going to use the vicks more for FAE and then im using a 5-6 inch substrate i think i will leave it uncased the first time or so and i think i might do two tubs this size since i have to lights
ill have my own see of shrooms lol
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446102 - 04/23/10 09:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay, just don't over-saturate your grow using the humidifier. Good call on the casing, it's optional, and unnecessary in my opinion when dealing with cubes. I used one the first few times but have long since abandoned the act.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446110 - 04/23/10 09:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats what i thought to just another couple of days of waiting for pretty much the same results
i cant wait do to pan cyans just dont have the prints yet for it
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446118 - 04/23/10 09:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, and the casing gets stuck to the shrooms, making the harvest more of a hassle IMO.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446140 - 04/23/10 09:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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l learnt that the hard way lol
would bone meal or blood meal or bat manure be any useful i want results like akira had with his grow
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446164 - 04/23/10 09:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know, I don't partake in the meat biz so I don't use bone or blood. I don't know about guano, I've never used it in a sub. But there's no need for those as I see it, you've already got a prime sub using those other ingredients. Just try to nail the other aspects of the grow and it will kick ass, genetics permitting.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446197 - 04/23/10 10:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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alright sounds good to me ill take your word for it thanks again
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446200 - 04/23/10 10:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just did a quick search on using guano in a sub - the word is not to use any carnivore shit. It's way too hot for your substrate.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446215 - 04/23/10 10:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats right i totally forgot the host of the shit has to eat grains or straws/hay
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446229 - 04/23/10 10:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Or at least be totally herbivorous in some manner as I understand it.
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: skullhuman]
#12446318 - 04/23/10 10:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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sounds about right
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Re: horse manure + ratios [Re: jokefox]
#12446369 - 04/23/10 10:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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