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appleorange
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher] 1
#12441561 - 04/23/10 02:37 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Mr. Cypher said: Cats leave dusty paw prints on the mirror...

Happy now?
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Boozerguyzer
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PsylioSynethesis said: Good post Boozerguyzer. I think it is improper to use male and femaleness as theoretical, generalizable, philosophy (as these things are almost entirely socially constructed)- but the metaphor came across all the same.
The respective reproductive organs and subsequent processes of both sexes are far from mere social constructs. If society dreamed up those things we probly wouldn't have gone for the pubic hair, refractory period or menstrual cycle. Nurture, our upbringing and programming, certainly effects how we view male and female qualities and also influences how much of those qualities we let show, but all of our potential and all we truly are is contained in Nature, in our genes, and that includes certain undeniable differences between sexes.
As far as the "properness" of my argument, I don't see your point. Every word you have every used is a social construct. Unless you're one of those fucks that has the time to make their own language like that avatar dude, the sound/symbol system you use everyday and even on this board is an entirely social construct and is susceptible to the same corruptibility as my male/female constructs. Logic is pretty cool, but trying to turn language into some kind of "Truth machine" is pointless and futile. Metaphor, parable and myth all show things about our world that cannot be put into words, and in my opinion point to greater truths than any human can "prove" with his corrosive words. It's like how when you're trying to get laid you can't actually speak of your efforts, even when both parties know exactly what's going down; to do so is much to clumsy and blunt and rarely get's you the win. Same goes for having to explain a joke.
Just a few thoughts, no hostility, I've just been stuck in a philosophy class all semester and am going crazy with having to prove my acid soaked ideas lol
-------------------- "There was a time when I could not find, the spirit of God BEYOND the mind. In retrospect the intellect is blind, it makes me think that I'm, the reason for all that's mine, even this rhyme I'm inclined to believe is from me, instead of being received. This is how we're deceived. How am I more than dust? when it's your love that animates us? Forever I will trust. Your love is better than lust. You. Live. Forever In Us." KRS ONE
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deCypher

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The Truth machine is fully operational and awaiting your command, good sir.
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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Kickle
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher]
#12441594 - 04/23/10 02:46 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Does it explain where all the sub 200 post people come from? Cause it's this weird pocket in one thread
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deCypher

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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: Kickle]
#12441602 - 04/23/10 02:48 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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I am honestly paranoid that everyone's a puppet. I blame the N2O.
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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Kickle
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher]
#12441608 - 04/23/10 02:49 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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 I can honestly say that I have never made a puppet on any forum I have ever posted on. I have a hard enough time keeping up as it is.
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deCypher

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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: Kickle]
#12441620 - 04/23/10 02:54 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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I made a puppet once but then it got banned. So I don't do that anymore.
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Kickle
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher] 1
#12441627 - 04/23/10 02:59 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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haha, ya right I am your puppet ya liar
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deCypher

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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: Kickle]
#12441628 - 04/23/10 02:59 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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Kickle
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher]
#12441630 - 04/23/10 03:00 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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I seriously have no idea how you reply that fast...
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deCypher

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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher]
#12441637 - 04/23/10 03:02 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Mr. Cypher said: The Truth machine is fully operational and awaiting your command, good sir.
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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Kickle
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher] 1
#12441642 - 04/23/10 03:04 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Truth machine! I command you to tell me how the hell Mr. Cypher can respond to my post before I can even refresh the page after posting it.
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deCypher

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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: Kickle] 1
#12441646 - 04/23/10 03:05 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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I am powered by the coal of your sins and the fire of your spirituality.
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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Kickle
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher]
#12441658 - 04/23/10 03:07 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Truth machine! How does one put out the fire of their own spirituality?
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deCypher

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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: Kickle] 1
#12441659 - 04/23/10 03:08 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Cold showers.
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
 
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appleorange
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Re: Is Buddhism Apolitical? [Re: deCypher] 1
#12441662 - 04/23/10 03:08 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Mr. Cypher said: I am honestly paranoid that everyone's a puppet. I blame the N2O.
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PsylioSynethesis
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Boozerguyzer said: The respective reproductive organs and subsequent processes of both sexes are far from mere social constructs. If society dreamed up those things we probly wouldn't have gone for the pubic hair, refractory period or menstrual cycle. Nurture, our upbringing and programming, certainly effects how we view male and female qualities and also influences how much of those qualities we let show, but all of our potential and all we truly are is contained in Nature, in our genes, and that includes certain undeniable differences between sexes.
As far as the "properness" of my argument, I don't see your point. Every word you have every used is a social construct. Unless you're one of those fucks that has the time to make their own language like that avatar dude, the sound/symbol system you use everyday and even on this board is an entirely social construct and is susceptible to the same corruptibility as my male/female constructs. Logic is pretty cool, but trying to turn language into some kind of "Truth machine" is pointless and futile. Metaphor, parable and myth all show things about our world that cannot be put into words, and in my opinion point to greater truths than any human can "prove" with his corrosive words. It's like how when you're trying to get laid you can't actually speak of your efforts, even when both parties know exactly what's going down; to do so is much to clumsy and blunt and rarely get's you the win. Same goes for having to explain a joke.
Just a few thoughts, no hostility, I've just been stuck in a philosophy class all semester and am going crazy with having to prove my acid soaked ideas lol
I'm not claiming that we don't have biological differences. What I am saying is that you have misinterpreted how much that effects the brain and the way we act/think. In that regard, most differences are social constructs. And by the way, unless your metaphor/ect. is explained by pictures, the it is a language and word based system which is socially constructed. You can't define a metaphor that is outside of your understood languages. In the case of a picture metaphor- you still must use social constructed meaning if you wish to pass it to another, otherwise it is just for yourself.
And to Kickle: you too were once sub 200 posts- though I'm not sure what you were trying to prove with that. Puppet accounts are for trolls- this is not a troll account, I only serious post.
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