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 smurphy5000
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 Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer 
#12436337 - 04/22/10 06:25 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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this is only 1 week old footage.
Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer
turkey tail and lion's mane. oh yea. Paul Stamets is totally awsome.
if u check paul stamets site, he just put out a new product this week called My Community, the pills have 17 types of shrooms in them, including agarikon, lion's mane , reishi, cordyceps sinensis, maitake, turkey tail, i forget the rest,
anyways , i already orded my bottle, paul rulz.
i think it's now like almost our duty that we should learn to grow turkey tails and lions mane. lions mane is easy, i have no idea about turkey tail, will they just grow in bags on grain? will they grow on straw?
Edited by smurphy5000 (04/22/10 06:31 AM)
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: smurphy5000]
#12436418 - 04/22/10 06:57 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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it was on here 3 weeks ago LOL
good stuff...bad sound
this one is way better and way longer (also posted here a while back)
http://www.longevityconference.com/paul-stamets-interview-with-david-wolfe/
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: Momofo]
#12436537 - 04/22/10 07:34 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Momofo said:
it was on here 3 weeks ago LOL
thats odd cuz it was just uploaded to their channel like 8 days ago. i dont' think it's the same conference, do you have the link for that??
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: smurphy5000]
#12436672 - 04/22/10 08:13 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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well maybe I lost my mind......cause this link is dated 4-12
http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2010/04/12/paul-stamets-on-medicinal-mushrooms-and-cancer/
sorry for that.....its morel season and my sense of time is askew perhaps
Turkey tail is supposed to be an easy grow.....plus its everywhere in the wild too....and quite easy to harvest from peoples wood piles BTW
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: Momofo]
#12436814 - 04/22/10 08:54 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Momofo said:
Turkey tail is supposed to be an easy grow
i did a few searches, can't find any good turkey tail grow logs, Can someone direct me to some good turkey tail grows?
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: smurphy5000]
#12436854 - 04/22/10 09:05 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Checklist of what is recommended for optimal results in a general scope (not strain specific, since that varies greatly).
- SacO2 bags for the best possible conditions for this scenario. Though I'm sure Unicorn bags would produce viable results.
- Sorghum & White Millet (Hulled) at a 3:2 ratio. You want hulled millet as it resists turning mushy encouraging anaerobic conditions. Red millet and Rye are both non-working grains, where Wheat, Oats and Barley are mediocre.
- 5-8 Weeks is the generalized scope of how long to let them digest and 'ferment'.
- Dry, crush, powder and ingest as a whole for a full spectrum solution.
if you listen to paul talking here he actually explains that also it's best to used dry crushed powder for a full spectrum of enzymes, liquid extraction will never compare. A mix of both the a block of powdered mycelium , and a sererate block for fruits that you will dry and powder and dispose of that block. use those fruits and the other block that had no fruits. powder both and mix for full spectrum, that is what i read. after i read this post by Mephistophelian, i have been doing a lot of reading.
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: smurphy5000]
#12437022 - 04/22/10 09:39 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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What Paul is talking about, its referring to the specific exceptions where you can reap the benefits of unique compounds found only in the fruit body compared to the fermented mycelial mass that is ground up and powdered (being only on grain, not blocks of sawdust).
The only reference I have found so far that is accounted as a rare exception is Lions Mane where the fruit body contains specific ones that are unrelated to its mycelial base.
Turkey Tail grow mention: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12421387
I'll have some myself soon too. They appear to grow no different then Reishi, which is easy.
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: Mephistophelian]
#12441180 - 04/22/10 10:20 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only reference I have found so far that is accounted as a rare exception is Lions Mane where the fruit body contains specific ones that are unrelated to its mycelial base.
ok , i uderstand.
hey let me ask you this, what does Paul Stamets patents actually cover?
he says he has a patent to research cordyceps on 200 thousand species what does that mean?
also his other patent... he has that patent for his isolated genome of cordyceps that is being used for insecticides to kill carpenter ants? I did not know you can patents an isolate. is that what is going on here in that patent??
also, aloha medicinals has a cordyceps isolate right... is their cordcyeps isolate also patented??
and man if you happend to copy their isolate by accident matching all DNA but derived your source from wild sources, technically shouldn't you still be able to use it for retail? becaus it is from the wild.. i mean that's like pretty rare that you will match their isolate but it could happen eh lol. you can't patent mother nature, so I don't understand paul's patent, is it an isolate patend, same with aloha. mabe you could clear this up for me, thanks.
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Re: Paul Stamets on Medicinal Mushrooms and Cancer [Re: smurphy5000]
#12443050 - 04/23/10 09:51 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think any of these patents have been tested in court. I doubt seriously any of them would hold up. It would be like patenting a cloud because it has water vapor condensed to the dewpoint. A natural process is a natural process. Cordyceps have been attacking insect hosts since long before mankind even evolved. To assume one can patent that process is somewhat silly.
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