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 First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) 
#12408979 - 04/17/10 12:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intro
Greetings everyone!
First of all, I just want to thank the shroomery community for all the valuable information it has been offering. Like most, I've been a lurker for 2-3 months now and this is my first post.
Background
I have taken microbiology at a local college initially when I finished high-school. The first year I F*** around real good and had no interest in the subject at all. I only took it because I didn't know what to do and microbiology sounded important. :P Bad move, waste of money and waste of time. Anyways, a couple of things happened in life and I dropped out of school to work. I recently went back to school but not for microbio. Long story short, ironically I'm currently studying electronics engineering but ever since a friend in that program told me how easy it is to cultivate mushrooms, I started to get more interested in biology. :P Not gonna switch programs again, just gonna do bio as a hobby interest.
The Grow
Before knewing anything about sponsored vendors and such, I went and ordered a package deal from BLANK.com. I got 3 spore syringes for 40 dollars. The site calls them GOLDEN MAMMOTH but from researching on shroomery, I think they are B+. They were stored in the fridge until inoculation could take place.
Substrate Preparation - March 20, 2010
I followed RR's videos using organic brown rice I grounded myself.
Prepared 12 jars of the BR, VERM and water mix. Bottled spring water was used. The jars were sterilized in a pressure cooker for 90 minutes. My PC is small so i was only able to do 6 jars at a time.
After each sterilization, the jars were left to cool for atleast 4 hours in the PC. The first 6 jars that were done were placed into a sterlite tote box that was intended to be a part of the TiT incubator I made. The second set of 6 jars were left in the PC until the next day when I was ready to inoculate.
inoculation - March 21, 2010
Initially upon researching, it said to make 4 holes in the can of the lid but this is my first time using a syringe (I only smoke cannibis) so I felt uncomfortable dividing .8 of a CC into four. As a result, I only made 2 holes for inoculation.
The inoculation took place in a closed room and only the table was wiped down with alcohol and lysol. The first 3-4 jars didn't get that much spore solution since when I got to the last couple of jars, I had like a good 4 CC left. With the remaining 4 CC, I went back and added more to the first few jars. Of course the needle was flamed sterilized between inoculation of jars.
Inncubation - March 21, 2010
The jars were then place in a TiT incubator at a temperature of 28 degrees Celcius. After about 2 weeks, 8 of the jars were fully colonized while the other 4 only had the meeting point section to complete.
April 10, 2010
I birth the 8 jars that were done consolidating. Dunked in tap water for 24 hours.
April 11, 2010
Rolled the 8 Cakes in Verm that was pre-sterilized in oven at 350F for 30 minutes. Cakes were then placed into the SGFC.
FRUITING
The 8 Cakes have been in the FC for 6 days now with day temp being at 69-70 F and night temp is around 66F. Humidex is 96% constant sometimes 97%.
April 17, 2010
I birthed the last 4 jars yesterday, they are currently being dunked and will be rolled later on this evening.
Here are pics of the 8 cakes. Pictures were taken with my old ericson, cheap 2 mega pixel :P. Again this is my first grow, any advice would be helpful although I've scoured the community a lot when i need to know something and I usually well always find the answer to the question i'm looking for. I've been so hooked on this over the last month or so. I swear i spend more time looking at them then actual maintenance time it takes for them. (which is bad because I have exams in these next two weeks, but it will be a blast since if everything goes as plan I should be harvesting when this semester is done, end of April)
 
I knocked up some shiitake LC a week ago, following shroom-jitsu's method of growing them on skewers. I've also bought a case of pyrex test tubes, 10 pyrex petri dishes, agar mix, ...why wasn't I this interested back then :P. Anyways this is truly an awesome hobby. I feel like Ash from pokemon lol collecting different fungi! "I choose you! Go Shiitake Go!" Shiitakemon says "Shii, Shii" :P
Edited by Saigun (04/22/10 06:50 PM)
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 Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12410272 - 04/17/10 04:15 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Saigun said:
I feel like Ash from pokemon lol collecting different fungi! "I choose you! Go Shiitake Go!" Shiitakemon says "Shii, Shii" :P
 :p
Edited by Base Icks (04/17/10 04:17 PM)
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Base Icks]
#12413289 - 04/18/10 05:25 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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yah it was ghey :P
anyways UPDATE pic of one of the cakes..day 7 overnight pinning
the other cakes are also showing signs of pinning
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12413300 - 04/18/10 05:32 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh sorry, the reason why I made this thread was to find out what strain of cube I am growing. Experience growers might be able to tell from pin features? or without a microscope you can only identify them when they are fully grown?
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12424968 - 04/20/10 04:54 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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3 days later...
Can anyone help me identify what this strain is?...Also in the next pic there is a mushie growing but i don't see a visible cap. Is this a mutant? Are mutants safe to harvest? Thx ... greatly appreciate the help
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12425003 - 04/20/10 05:24 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mutants are fine to eat an they look like b+ to me. 
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Edited by PolkAudio2 (04/20/10 05:24 AM)
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) *DELETED* [Re: PolkAudio2]
#12425049 - 04/20/10 05:50 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Post deleted by SaigunReason for deletion: answer found :P
Edited by Saigun (04/20/10 05:51 AM)
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12426554 - 04/20/10 12:01 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mutant cake ...why?
Is it because the mycelium is spreading onto the rubber ring of the canning lid i have that one cake on?...only two cakes i have on canning lid...while the other 10 is on foil...seems like one on the rubber has more mutants forming 
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12426872 - 04/20/10 12:48 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mutant cake ...why?
Early birthed substrates tend to develop "mutant" fruits.
But since you waited for them to consolidate, I suspect it to be just genetics.
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Fahkface]
#12428785 - 04/20/10 07:49 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm..so the mycelium growing on the rubber part of the canning lid's not having an effect on its fruiting ability?
it seems like it's colonizing that rubber part all around......never using that again...although not many fruits but lots of dense hyphae knots so just gonna wait it out and see how that cake does.
thx for the input
neone know what I should do when that cake has finished the first flush...like should i rip away the mycelium from the lid...or scrap it off etc.? TIA
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12429044 - 04/20/10 08:33 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just began my first Golden mammoth grow. I just inoculated them earlier today, and my patience sucks. The suspense is killing me! I will be dunking and rolling after they are ready for birth, and using the shotgun. Let me know how your cakes turn out and any suggestions you have for what you had to tweak to get better results.
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: cottie]
#12430398 - 04/21/10 05:19 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice nice, atleast someone else has this misnamed strain. yah, this hobby will let you practice your patience skills. I didn't do anything much different from RR's lets grow mushroom videos
I did measured out his BRF recipe for 5 cakes and did the math for 12 cakes but in the end when filling the jars I ran out so I got lazy and did a eyeballing mix for like the last 2-3 jars.
during incubation I checked on them frequently like twice a day and they colonized at average speed.
after 100% colonize wait for consolidation however long your patience can hold out :P
birth, rinse (cold tap water but not too cold), dunk 24 hrs, rinse and rolled in sterile verm (i rolled the whole cake like rr video, some people just do top n bottom :P)
place into FC chamber...(get the chamber ready 1-2 days b4 birthing so that humidity can get up to hi 90's)
don't use the rubber canning lid to place the cakes on...as i found two of my cakes have been colonizing the rubber part, which i think is slowing down the fruiting on that cake(cakes don't fruit until substrate is fully colonize) and giving me mutants :P (just a guess, i have no science to back it up)
here's some updated pics ...it's been 10 days since I've placed them into the chamber
temperature has been from mid 60 to high 70's and humidex been 94%...i've had it at 96-97%..but as i added more cakes...humidity droppped so i grabbed some oven cooking racks to elevate the cakes off the perlite.
they are about 2 inches now...uneven growth around cakes :P...clusters grow pretty even tho
I've counted roughly over 25 pins on each cake
Anyways, like i said I'm nowhere near experienced as some of these guys in the forum, as far as tweaking...this is my first grow...so tweaking wasn't done just followed instructions as much as possible..second time around I will change variables up to see different effects  ...good luck with your grow...if you inoculate it ...you wont see anything in the jars until day 5-7 roughly :P not the same for everyone....but you can keep watch out for condensation around the place you inoculate...it'll start to get lightly opaque first (little fog).
G'Luck and keep me updated
forgot to mention lighting...i'm giving them 11-14 hrs light...whenever i remember...i try to keep the 12/12 cycle but nature aint' perfect i figured. Misting...I don't have a pattern...i mist whenever i feel like i have to :P (there's too many different amounts of time you have mist :P) but i make sure i fan after i mist...to remove standing water
Edited by Saigun (04/21/10 05:26 AM)
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12430415 - 04/21/10 05:28 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anybody know when I can expect to see aborts? TIA
Saigun, VN
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12430461 - 04/21/10 05:49 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Saigun said:
nice nice, atleast someone else has this misnamed strain. yah, this hobby will let you practice your patience skills. I didn't do anything much different from RR's lets grow mushroom videos
I did measured out his BRF recipe for 5 cakes and did the math for 12 cakes but in the end when filling the jars I ran out so I got lazy and did a eyeballing mix for like the last 2-3 jars.
during incubation I checked on them frequently like twice a day and they colonized at average speed.
after 100% colonize wait for consolidation however long your patience can hold out :P
birth, rinse (cold tap water but not too cold), dunk 24 hrs, rinse and rolled in sterile verm (i rolled the whole cake like rr video, some people just do top n bottom :P)
place into FC chamber...(get the chamber ready 1-2 days b4 birthing so that humidity can get up to hi 90's)
don't use the rubber canning lid to place the cakes on...as i found two of my cakes have been colonizing the rubber part, which i think is slowing down the fruiting on that cake(cakes don't fruit until substrate is fully colonize) and giving me mutants :P (just a guess, i have no science to back it up)
here's some updated pics ...it's been 10 days since I've placed them into the chamber
temperature has been from mid 60 to high 70's and humidex been 94%...i've had it at 96-97%..but as i added more cakes...humidity droppped so i grabbed some oven cooking racks to elevate the cakes off the perlite.
they are about 2 inches now...uneven growth around cakes :P...clusters grow pretty even tho
I've counted roughly over 25 pins on each cake
Anyways, like i said I'm nowhere near experienced as some of these guys in the forum, as far as tweaking...this is my first grow...so tweaking wasn't done just followed instructions as much as possible..second time around I will change variables up to see different effects ...good luck with your grow...if you inoculate it ...you wont see anything in the jars until day 5-7 roughly :P not the same for everyone....but you can keep watch out for condensation around the place you inoculate...it'll start to get lightly opaque first (little fog).
G'Luck and keep me updated
forgot to mention lighting...i'm giving them 11-14 hrs light...whenever i remember...i try to keep the 12/12 cycle but nature aint' perfect i figured. Misting...I don't have a pattern...i mist whenever i feel like i have to :P (there's too many different amounts of time you have mist :P) but i make sure i fan after i mist...to remove standing water
Right on! Good Stuff dude! Yeah i will definatly keep you posted, ive started my own thread "First Grow". I started off with just 5 cakes cause i ran dry in sterilization for my first 6. I found the substrate ingrediants were not enough to fill all 5 1/2 pint tall jars, so i mixed another 5 and filled the 1 jar i needed. I'm going on my first 24 hours for colonization, nothing obviously. I will be doing another 5 cakes tonight just because after sterilization of my first 5 i only waited 2 1/2 - 3 hours before inoculation which in my other thread it seems sketchy to whether the cakes were cooled enough, and got blasted with not enough patience. So i will be trying another 5 cakes and waiting the full 8-10 hours of cooling. I will take pics of both and see if there is a difference and hopefully my first 5 are not spoiled.
Thanks again for your input, looking forward to see your final growth. Let me know how your second flush goes.
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: cottie]
#12432674 - 04/21/10 02:11 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update from previous post:
after 9 hrs the first 8 cakes - longest mush is over 2 inches now
  
The mutant cake
Fruiting is a bit considerably slow ...mycelium is still colonizing rubber ring...lots of condense mycelium balls (knots) on top near the mutant mushie
1 of the 6 Shiitake jars that has been colonizing for roughly 2 weeks now
bottom of jar haven't started yet...on some jars it has
knocked up 6 more of the unknown strain so called golden mammoth (B+?) 5 days ago...finally starting to show mycelium growth of about a dime
only hassle i find at this stage: ... initially i was gonna spread my cakes out apart by 2" (RR's advice) but i wanted to fit 24 cakes in the chamber so i had them spread apart 1" you can prolly figure it what's going on...:P I have to keep moving certain cakes apart for the mushies on the side to grow without touching it's neighboring cakes :P
anyone know what kind of effect, disturbing cakes have? prolly bad :P but stunt growth? or lessen yield?
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12433443 - 04/21/10 04:37 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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lighnting n mushies
just came by this news recently like 10 days ago :P
since i'm doing electronics at school maybe i can simulate :P
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12438504 - 04/22/10 01:46 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update:
harvesting time!
came home from school today and viels tearing off some mushies
 
going to give it a go for making prints.
Edited by Saigun (04/22/10 02:37 PM)
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12438633 - 04/22/10 02:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whats up with those other 4 cakes? U just throw em in?
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: iamu]
#12438698 - 04/22/10 02:15 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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yah those other 4 only been in for 2-3 days
Edited by Saigun (04/22/10 02:19 PM)
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Re: First Grow Golden mammoth (B+?) [Re: Saigun]
#12438801 - 04/22/10 02:31 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh ok
those mushrooms are very nice looking, too bad its pretty difficult to name a strain.
I think even the named strains have some other influence in them from other parts of the world.
pretty frikin good for your first grow!
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