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 trickyspark
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 Growing oyster mushrooms, can you use bamboo, and other stuff 
#12328759 - 04/04/10 02:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been reading a lot, and searching the web for weeks trying to get ready to grow my first batch of oysters. I've read "The Mushroom Cultivator" and "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms" cover to cover, as well as saved about every pdf and site I can find in reference.
I have petri dishes, antibiotic agar, and an oyster kit that is starting to produce mushrooms, I think they should be ready in another 5-7 days from the looks of things, looking like it might be several, several dozen.
As you may or may not know, the kits with shipping tend to be around $40. I'm not a rich man by any means, and I love growing my own vegetables, mushrooms seemed the next logically step, and they happen to be my favorite food, but I digress.
I am having quite the hard time finding hardwood chips/sawdust, or wheat straw which seem to be the main thing most people grow them on. I've heard you can use various grasses, but the only thing named were stuff that is native to Thailand and grows by the roadside or in fields.
We have lots of bamboo around here, and as it is a grass, and hollow like wheat straw, I was wondering if perhaps I could use bamboo, or if there were other alternatives, possibly oak leaves, acorns and such.? We have lots of oaks,but they are rather big and I do not want to kill or maim trees far older than I am. They drop loads of leaves and acorns however.
They say you can use cardboard, coffee grounds, newspaper...although I am a bit concerned with using paper products as I am not familiar with the exact manufacturing process and do not know if there are toxins that might harm someone eating mushrooms grown from them.
The majority of the trees are pines in my area, and as I have read I can't use pine due to the antifungal properties of the wood, a shame since there are mountains of straw and dead pine limbs throughout the forest.
There is a farm near my home, and they have some hay bales which someone suggested is probably rye grass. I thought about asking them for a few pounds of it, but I fear to do so for the threat of mold as the hay is not very fresh, and is often baled while still green.
What are my options as far as what is known to support oyster mushroom growth aside from wheat and hardwood which I cannot seem to find despite bugging dozens of people?
Also, has anyone tried the mass slurry method. The one where you drop some mushrooms in a bucket of water, add salt and some maple syrup or something similiar, then let it set, remove the mushrooms, let it set some more, then pour over the material you want it to grow on? Did you have luck or know of someone that did?
I'm rather hesitant to use the agar/petri dishes as I do not have a super sterile lab environment, glove boxes, laminar air flow, etc., and fear I may cultivate BAD things
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trickyspark
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Re: Growing oyster mushrooms, can you use bamboo, and other stuff [Re: trickyspark]
#12343387 - 04/06/10 06:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mycelio
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Re: Growing oyster mushrooms, can you use bamboo, and other stuff [Re: trickyspark]
#12343712 - 04/06/10 07:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi, I would try bamboo first, sounds like your best option. It should work much better than hay or leaves. Oaks produce lots of suppressing chemicals, Shiitake and Lions Mane should be able to deal better with that. Pine may be worth a try, though Pleurotus pulmonarius is recommended for conifer wood.
And save the stems from your harvest to start new cultures with them.
Carsten
PS: My favorite non sterile multiplication method for oyster mycelium is placing stem parts on moist corrugated cardboard. As soon as the cardboard is colonized, you can cover it whit a thin layer of any material you want to test, repeat a few times and when you have some colonized substrate, mix with fresh material (equal amounts work best). May need a few tries at the beginning, but you will get it going quickly. I am using this method since years with great success.
Edited by Mycelio (04/06/10 07:27 PM)
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justparanoid
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Re: Growing oyster mushrooms, can you use bamboo, and other stuff [Re: Mycelio]
#13852878 - 01/26/11 11:53 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mycelio said:
PS: My favorite non sterile multiplication method for oyster mycelium is placing stem parts on moist corrugated cardboard. As soon as the cardboard is colonized, you can cover it whit a thin layer of any material you want to test, repeat a few times and when you have some colonized substrate, mix with fresh material (equal amounts work best). May need a few tries at the beginning, but you will get it going quickly. I am using this method since years with great success.
Thank you, you just saved me from posting yet another question already answered!
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JP
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