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 Annapurna1
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 CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... 
#12264098 - 03/24/10 06:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/24/marijuana-legalization-officially-qualifies-for-california-ballot/
CA will hold a referendum on legalizing marijuana in november...unfortunately..this is the same election the repugs are expected to sweep.. CA in particular is poised to elect ghouliani clone meg whitman as governor..and i very much doubt that tom campbell as US senator would be very sympathetic to marijuana users either ..
http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2331.pdf
technically its not a partisan issue..and in theory its possible that the referendum may go the opposite direction as the political elections...but IMAO..this is extremely unlikely in practice.. which means that marijuana legalization doesnt stand a chance if the political polls (especially the governorship) hold into november...
so would you agree that theres some kind of common root cause that ties the outcome of the marijuana referendum to that of the political elections?...your comments will be appreciated...
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 Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12264882 - 03/24/10 08:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Annapurna1 said:
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/24/marijuana-legalization-officially-qualifies-for-california-ballot/
CA will hold a referendum on legalizing marijuana in november...unfortunately..this is the same election the repugs are expected to sweep.. CA in particular is poised to elect ghouliani clone meg whitman as governor..and i very much doubt that tom campbell as US senator would be very sympathetic to marijuana users either ..
http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2331.pdf
technically its not a partisan issue..and in theory its possible that the referendum may go the opposite direction as the political elections...but IMAO..this is extremely unlikely in practice.. which means that marijuana legalization doesnt stand a chance if the political polls (especially the governorship) hold into november...
so would you agree that theres some kind of common root cause that ties the outcome of the marijuana referendum to that of the political elections?...your comments will be appreciated...
I don't think so. I see this as more a generational issue.
And as Tom Campbell would be a US Senator (as despicable bunch if there ever was one) his winning would have little or no effect on what Californians decide to do.
It will happen in California first. If not this time, next time.
I predict it (referendum) will pass.
Someone quote this for me as the silly girl has me on ignore.
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Thomas Sowell
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12265072 - 03/24/10 08:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:Quote:
I don't think so. I see this as more a generational issue.
And as Tom Campbell would be a US Senator (as despicable bunch if there ever was one) his winning would have little or no effect on what Californians decide to do.
It will happen in California first. If not this time, next time.
I predict it (referendum) will pass.
Someone quote this for me as the silly girl has me on ignore.
I am quoting him to let you know. At the very least I think that marijuana should be available as medicine. I know several people who could benefit and do not want to be criminals. I have signed several petitions and wrote letters to my Congresspeople...
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12265089 - 03/24/10 09:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Being a Californian, I think you're you're dead wrong on this one, Annapurna. Marijuana is such a non-issue across the board here, it ridiculous, and I live in one of the more conservative regions. I even met a retired LEO recently who mentioned he was thinking of starting medical growing for extra cash. I think legalization could even get a boost from the current wave of conservatism if it is promoted correctly (marijuana criminalization as a failed, liberal big-government policy; free-market ftw). I'll laugh my ass off if Whitman gets elected and is forced to implement marijuana legalization. 
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: HippieChick8]
#12265098 - 03/24/10 09:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
HippieChick8 said:
I am quoting him to let you know..
Thanks.
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Thomas Sowell
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AnastomosisJihad
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12265270 - 03/24/10 09:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The referendum might actually tilt the election toward liberals by way of increasing liberal turn out. A lot of people that won't be bothered to get off the couch to support a politician might very well turn out for the pot referendum. The group of voters drawn to the polls solely for the purpose of legalizing marijuana will probably lean to the liberal side.
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Annapurna1
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: HippieChick8]
#12265317 - 03/24/10 09:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
HippieChick8 said:
luvdemlies said:Quote:
I don't think so. I see this as more a generational issue.
And as Tom Campbell would be a US Senator (as despicable bunch if there ever was one) his winning would have little or no effect on what Californians decide to do.
It will happen in California first. If not this time, next time.
I predict it (referendum) will pass.
Someone quote this for me as the silly girl has me on ignore.
I am quoting him to let you know. At the very least I think that marijuana should be available as medicine. I know several people who could benefit and do not want to be criminals. I have signed several petitions and wrote letters to my Congresspeople...
the gubernatorial election in CA is more important as far as the marijuana referendum is concerned...i dont live in CA..but intuitively it makes little sense that someone would vote meg whitman for governor and at the same time vote to legalize marijuana...and whitman would do to marijuana smokers in CA exactly what ghouliani did in NYC...
as US senator..campbell would prolly push for a series of draconian anti-marijuana federal laws.. ie a law that requires marijuana offenders to be handled as full-blown terrorists on the grounds of funding terrorism...whether or not this could pass depends on which party controls congress...
in either case..CA and the rest of the country seem to be making a hard right turn.. and its difficult for me to imagine how anyone that jumps on the bandwagon could vote to legalize marijuana...
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12272859 - 03/25/10 11:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's no hard right turn, this is just like august 2008. It's a bump in the road.
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: AnastomosisJihad]
#12282035 - 03/27/10 12:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The countrry is taking a hard libertarian turn. Seems to me that's a good thing for dope smoking fiends everywhere.
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Annapurna1
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: zappaisgod]
#12282779 - 03/27/10 02:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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as in libertarians that want to give the govt the power to simply declare someone a terrorist and revoke their constitutional rights on fabricated hearsay...yeah right...
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zappaisgod
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12282789 - 03/27/10 02:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12285492 - 03/28/10 12:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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True libertarians(NOT LIBERALS), which are a faction within the modern conservative party, will be forced to accept marijuana legalization due to the core principal within their party: government should NOT be involved in daily life
therefore, the government has no right to prosecute people for smoking a plant
and if they wanted to get the authoritative faction within the modern conservative party rallied....all they need to do is quote the bible
Genesis 1:29 "And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food."
"And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so" (Genesis 1:30).
In Genesis 3:17-19 "And unto Adam He said... And you shall eat the herb of the field
"The Lord said unto me, 'I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs.' " -- Isaiah 18:4-5
And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. -- Ezekiel 34:29
I am not a religious nut, I just like using the bible to control the way people who do believe in it act (wait, does that make me a priest?)
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: yogimeetreats]
#12299654 - 03/30/10 04:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't touch me there!
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Annapurna1]
#12301414 - 03/30/10 09:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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as in libertarians that want to give the govt the power to simply declare someone a terrorist and revoke their constitutional rights on fabricated hearsay...yeah right...
Which libertarians do that?
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Annapurna1
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#12302822 - 03/31/10 01:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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none...just ppl that zappa calls libertarians..who are poised to win the 2010 elections...
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Re: CA ..marijuana legalization as a partisan issue... [Re: yogimeetreats]
#12315348 - 04/02/10 01:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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yogimeetreats said:
True libertarians(NOT LIBERALS), which are a faction within the modern conservative party,
True libertarians are not part of conservative machine, and want nothing to do with the conservatives running the republican party.
Ask Ron Paul.
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