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civil twilight said:
Not surprised. I knew it was only a matter of time. They've been discussing it for a while now, what with all the children gettin' fucked up and making youtube videos lol. Can't say I'll miss her as I just didn't think it was fair to MJ that salvia was legal and she wasn't...

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One has nothing to do with the other, how much worse is Salvia for you then Cannabis? Not to mention that you're not consuming but a couple times a year usually, at least that's me, whereas I smoke Cannabis a couple times a day usually, at least once a day though. I'm not going to say, "this substance or that substance should be made illegal as long as weed is illegal, because that makes it fair and balanced". Seems to be what you're saying and I don't get it, aren't we trying to keep things legal, the more mind-expanding substances that are legal, the easier it is to show that these substances are not harmful and in fact do a lot of good. I guess they just need to make all the RC's schedule 1 because they are more harmful then Cannabis and if a substance as benign and pot is illegal then just out of spite we should make all other substances illegal.  The goal is to get Cannabis made legal, not fuck up other substances and people lives for using those substances. I'm just really dumbfounded by your statement, and the fact that you're on this website where most of us honestly ARE, and SHOULD BE for that matter, biased towards making drugs legal. I don't see how you wouldn't want at least every natural substances legal, kinda the way Holland has done it, with a decriminilization on other harder drugs, while also giving these people treatment options and education simultaneously about the drugs they're using and the effects that these substances have on both the body and mind. I'm pretty much for legalizing everything and just having age restrictions. I'm not even sure what would be the best way to go about doing it, as far as who controls the drugs, the people or the gov. I would like to say the people but as long as there is money to be made it will be a problem, and if it's legal then there wouldn't be as much money in the drug trade, actually the price of drugs would probably plummit, and street dealer would go out of business over night. I'm done ranting I just want you to respond and tell me what is the reasoning behind your ideology? Even if you don't use any substances, you should want other people to have the freedom to do so, I don't use Heroin or Cocaine anymore but I think it's bullshit that you can get locked up for many years and have your life ruined over something that is already a struggle to deal with in the first place as a social and psychological problem, but toss in the judicial system fucking you in the ass and it's a perfect storm that allows the drugs to flow, certain people to profit, and others to lose everything from them.

Take away the blackmarket aspect of the drug game and concentrate on educating people and having options for treatment that are realistic, not a "pray away the addict in you" type of thing that NA tries to do, but a Heroin Clinic for Heroin Addicts that allows people to lower there dose like Methadone without the massive half-life of Methadone and months of W/D's that go along with stopping. Like the clinic in Canada that was on the Current channel, the only one of it's kind in North or South America, where you bring your own drugs and shoot up there and can also get help with injecting, not to mention all clean works which is a big help in keeping Hep C and HIV from spreading. Also, you can be saved from an O/D by other sober people who are experts in the field and who want to help, with over 500 OD's in two years at this place, not one person has died, quite the track record. And even if the people don't decide to get off drugs, they can at least not be a burden on society, since they wont have to steal for there habit and maintaing there habit for small sums of money will allow addicts to function in society, go to school, and get off when they feel ready, which people do now anyway, without taking days off from W/D symptoms. I just think that addicts are all stereotyped as lazy and basically worthless, I've actually heard people tell me to my face that "all addicts should be taken out back and shot", not kidding, granted they didn't know that I was and still am an addict so they were more open when talking, but I'm just amazed at how brainwashed these people are. The same people that will go out and drink a 18 or 24 pack after work every day, maybe even drink a few at lunch will be talking about addicts of illegal drugs as if they're a completely different breed, sorry, all addicts are the same. My mom and I talk about addiction all the time and the feeling are just ridiculously similar, addicts all have the same type of feelings, some may have started for different reason and use for different reasons but the feeling of relief that your DOC brings is a constant with addicts, just knowing that this drink or that shot of dope will make you feel a million times better is what makes you do it. If the drugs didn't work, people wouldn't do them, simple as that. Sorry, I was supposed to be done ranting, I was just talking about this with my dad and was getting into disagreements and so it's a sore subject right now, unless you are an addict or can walk in there shoes then you have no idea what that person is going through on a daily, hourly, and a minute to minute basis, just angers me.

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FleshCap said:
The snow ball is rolling down hill now. What happened in Wisconsin will just continue to spread. My guess is that sooner, rather than later, more and more states will adopt similar prohibitions until the Ally is no longer accessible by the people.

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