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Dramamine hppd?
    #12117180 - 03/01/10 12:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So when I was about 13 I took 10 Dramamine for obvious reasons, young and dumb! Ever since I have had mild visual disturbances. It's hard to explain, but think of a glitch over a computer generated image. I occasionally see these "glitches" over the outline of a given object, typically over the edge of very defined flat objects. Has anyone had or heard of a similar effect from Dramamine? Am I at a higher risk for developing a more serious case of hppd? Reason I ask is I still like to take psychedelics (never Dramamine! Though not a psychedelic), and have since with no noticeable after-effects.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: guitardude3]
    #12117322 - 03/01/10 01:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I HIGHLY doubt it has anything to do with the Dramamine. While I am no medical doctor or anything, I have been taking OTC drugs for years now at high rates and have had no side effects. To be honest, I think it may be an overactive imagination : )


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Hajnal]
    #12117401 - 03/01/10 01:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've considered that, but never saw them before the Dramamine. I've always seen dots against a white surface, common stuff like that, but this is odd. Just curious about similar experiences mostly.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: guitardude3]
    #12118037 - 03/01/10 03:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

actually, HPPD is associated with well most psychedelics.. LSD, the 2c drugs, mushrooms, mdma, mescaline.. a few others and also high doses of dextromethorphan and diphenhydramine. Dramamine is the exact same thing as diphenhydramine except with a few changes but it breaks down into essense the same molecule as diphenhydramine.

Becarefull man you might be getting HPPD. Sadly, I have the same thing.. I have it from high doses of dextromethorphan : /


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Janamil]
    #12120538 - 03/01/10 03:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I used to think I was getting HPPD (from massive doses of DXM as well over many years), but imo it's really one's ability to determine which is reality and which isn't. Granted it becomes more difficult the more you enter that state, but I personally believe it is all willpower to see through the mist. I on average have tripped on DXM anywhere from 3-4 times a week for almost 4 consistent years (with 2 breaks in between each lasting around 3 or 4 months), and there was a time where I had much difficulty determining what was real and what wasn't. Though with dedication I broke down my worlds and found a way to determine which was which. Sadly though, I kinda wish I hadn't figured it out sometimes, I loved that feeling of insanity, not knowing what was real anymore. @_@


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Janamil]
    #12121871 - 03/01/10 07:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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actually, HPPD is associated with well most psychedelics.. LSD, the 2c drugs, mushrooms, mdma, mescaline.. a few others and also high doses of dextromethorphan and diphenhydramine. Dramamine is the exact same thing as diphenhydramine except with a few changes but it breaks down into essense the same molecule as diphenhydramine.

Becarefull man you might be getting HPPD. Sadly, I have the same thing.. I have it from high doses of dextromethorphan : /




So are you saying you have HPPD, or have you seen similar visuals to what I explained? I've taken shrooms and whatnot since, and been fine, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Hajnal]
    #12122730 - 03/01/10 09:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I used to think I was getting HPPD (from massive doses of DXM as well over many years), but imo it's really one's ability to determine which is reality and which isn't. Granted it becomes more difficult the more you enter that state, but I personally believe it is all willpower to see through the mist. I on average have tripped on DXM anywhere from 3-4 times a week for almost 4 consistent years (with 2 breaks in between each lasting around 3 or 4 months), and there was a time where I had much difficulty determining what was real and what wasn't. Though with dedication I broke down my worlds and found a way to determine which was which. Sadly though, I kinda wish I hadn't figured it out sometimes, I loved that feeling of insanity, not knowing what was real anymore. @_@




I completely understand what you mean by this, I was the same way.


to the OP, you probably dont have really bad HPPD but its probably associated with some drugs you have used if not diphenhydramine maybe something else. As long as its not to severe I wouldnt worry about it. What I get from the DXM is Ive lost the ability to judge objects sizes so if I stare at something it can change size, or when I stare at a pattern it will shift and morph because Ive lost the ability to remember how big the pattern is outside of the point Im staring at. Its not that bad really, not like some HPPD people. Actually it may just be DXO still in my system because it lasts a week for every 400mg and Ive done well over 100 grams so it may be in my system for 6 more months or so.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Janamil]
    #12122750 - 03/01/10 09:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I fucking love the relative barrier that is broken while on DXM, making either a building in front of you seem as small as an ant, or your pinkie finger as big as an elephant. It just goes to show you how perceptual our universe really is.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Hajnal]
    #12122790 - 03/01/10 09:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I fucking love the relative barrier that is broken while on DXM, making either a building in front of you seem as small as an ant, or your pinkie finger as big as an elephant. It just goes to show you how perceptual our universe really is.



Yes indeed, also very relative.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Florida]
    #12134405 - 03/03/10 02:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've taken large doses of diphenhydramine, similer to dramamine. I've taken up to 1.5 grams, (that's 60 pills gentemen). And even now i suffer mild visual disturbances.

Most likely it's all in your head man, you see those things because of your past experience with delusional substances and feel it may have effected your health. I don't mean to sound like i know everything, but most likely it's a placebo.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: saxx]
    #12134530 - 03/03/10 03:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I've taken large doses of diphenhydramine, similer to dramamine. I've taken up to 1.5 grams, (that's 60 pills gentemen). And even now i suffer mild visual disturbances.

Most likely it's all in your head man, you see those things because of your past experience with delusional substances and feel it may have effected your health. I don't mean to sound like i know everything, but most likely it's a placebo.




what is the point of 60 pills of diph? just seems like it screams suicide


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: MkUltra117]
    #12134749 - 03/03/10 03:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Basically being young a stupid. Not caring about the threshold dose and wanting to trip hard.

People over at 420chan take 2 grams of the stuff, not sure about the ld50 but i don't think it's near it.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: saxx]
    #12135594 - 03/03/10 05:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

a person would have to have a MEAN tolerance to take 2 grams of diph.... or they are just stupid

ill still take diph though, i found 15 25mg pills is a good dose but iv never taken more than that, and dont think i want too


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: MkUltra117]
    #12136175 - 03/03/10 07:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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a person would have to have a MEAN tolerance to take 2 grams of diph.... or they are just stupid

ill still take diph though, i found 15 25mg pills is a good dose but iv never taken more than that, and dont think i want too



yeah, I had/have a friend that did DPH everyday for about three weeks and at the end of it he was taking about 2 grams to get where he was with 800mg. Also his tolerance is cross tolerance with datura, he took a crap load of jimson weed and didnt get anything from it, he even tried deadly nightshade and it didnt work.


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Re: Dramamine hppd? [Re: Janamil]
    #12137977 - 03/03/10 11:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

That's fucking crazy @_@


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