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 fucktheuniverse
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 Bad HBWR/LSA trip report
#11862758 - 01/19/10 08:58 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thought I'd put this out there, it isn't my personal experience but an email I got from a close friend. One thing to keep in mind - there was no preparation of both the trip & seeds. They were just ingested on a whim at random because one of my friends is a bit reckless like that... Another thing: it brutally effected 2 of the people but had no effect on one of the others (anti-depressants?).
Anyway...
On Friday night at about 1am after getting back from a friend's house a bunch of us took some hallucinogenic seeds called LSA, or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. As the hours passed we developed severe stomach cramps, really bad like we had been punched repeatedly in the gut. After a few hours (by 3 or 4) we decided that the seeds weren’t working and everyone else went home. "B" and I still feeling ill as hell threw up a few times and then went to bed to watch a movie. About ten minutes later we started vomiting violently and had to keep sculling down water so we had something to throw up other than bile. About half an hour later our trips started and it was the last thing in the world that we wanted to happen. Tripping hard, seeing full on colours, lines, shadows, shapes, distortions, etc while being violently sick in the toilet / laundry / bathroom basins, and sculling water to keep ourselves from passing out. When it got to 7am there was nothing else for it, and I drove (still tripping hard, totally dehydrated and feeling sick and weak as hell as we hadn’t slept and had been up vomiting for hours) to the Emergency Department which was the scariest and most difficult drive of my entire life.
We spent a few hours at the Emergency Department where they gave us some pills and made us sit there for the rest of the duration of the trip, one pill to settle our stomachs and then another to make the trip stop / less intense. We left the hospital at about 10/11am, drove home and crashed hard. We were literally at the point of death, if we hadn’t gone to hospital when we did we would have been too weak to have kept going and would have passed out and there was absolutely NOTHING worse than tripping so hard whilst being so sick, to the point where I had to physically drive us to the Emergency Department at ____.
I’m done with psychedelics, I’m not putting my body through that anymore and I’m not poisoning myself anymore. If throwing up for hours and tripping hard as driving to ____ to the Emergency Department at 7 in the morning isn’t enough of a kick up the arse, I don’t know what is. As far as I’m concerned, it’s not worth it, and I’m sticking to good old fashioned weed and alcohol from now on - that was a fucking nightmare turned to reality and we're both fucking lucky we're not dead. I hope that you never have that experience man as that was a total wake up call for me, from there it could only have got one step worse and I don't even want to think about that...
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BothHands
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Not all psychedelics cause severe side effects like that. I have a feeling you took way too many of them. Or you could be particularly sensitive to other chemicals in the seeds. Cyanide can potentially be in there too.
Don't give up on psychedelics yet. Some of them are extremely safe.
I'd try LSD, mushrooms, or mescaline (if you don't mind potential nausea before you trip). Lots of fake LSD out there though, so mushrooms might be best.
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fucktheuniverse
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Re: Bad HBWR/LSA trip report [Re: BothHands]
#11862902 - 01/19/10 09:21 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wasn't my actual report, just a friends...
They apparently only took 5 each. I imagine the bulk of the sickness was due to not preparing the seeds at all, just swallowing them as is. My g/f took in 2 1/2 tabs of acid + 5 of those seeds a while ago and had no sickness (not to mention no trip at all!).
I'm all for psychedelics and I've got a batch of HBWR for when I'm ready. I'll just be making sure everything is done right.
He already did the whole "never again" twice before with LSD heh. Maybe I'll get him in on a shroom trip when he's ready.
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Dr Dubulous
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They were probably coated. HBWR/MG seeds are often coated with shit to prevent abuse, that's why one is supposed to crush them and separate the LSA through extraction.
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Enochseight
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Re: Bad HBWR/LSA trip report [Re: Dr Dubulous]
#12092507 - 02/24/10 10:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dr Dubulous said:
They were probably coated. HBWR/MG seeds are often coated with shit to prevent abuse, that's why one is supposed to crush them and separate the LSA through extraction.
Yes they could have been coated in something poisonous- better to get ones that have just been coated in food grade sulfur or nothing at all and to take something for the nausea such as pepto, ginger, dramine etc as well as watching what/when you eat beforehand amongst other things.
If they had done some research and self-educated on HBWR, they probably would not have had such a bad experience (because they more likely would have known to source seeds without poisons on them and would have know what other preparations to take to enable a positive set/setting/experience).
I admit I never did any research when I first tried LSD, alcohol, MJ, nitrous, butane, amanita etc but that was years ago when I was younger and reckless  . Nowadays I do research, read, read, read and read again to know as much as possible before I even contemplate trying something new. Before I ever took HBWR I spent quite a while reading up on it at Erowid and other places.
By taking Nexium and watching what and when I eat beforehand,and using the following method, I have had little to no nausea and have never thrown up:
scrape off the shell with a Stanley knife revealing the almond nut color underneath, grind the seeds into glasses (manual pepper grinder with metal grinding element or coffee grinder but if it's quite powdered you might not be able to get rid of the taste), add lemon (or lime) juice (say 1-2 cm) and distilled or boiled cooled water (5cm 1/3 of glass), pop the glasses in the fridge, wait for 30 minutes then add more distilled or boiled and cooled water that has had a fair amount of sugar dissolved in it (1/4 cup? of sugar).
The result should taste like lemonade  Swirl and stir so the seed bits don't end up at the bottom of the glass and drink it all down, (so not an extraction technically as you ingest the seeds as well- but this method does quick it in quicker) followed by another glass of water.
Drinking several glasses of water over the next few hours helps but can be a problem on the peak as the last thing I want to do is get out of bed to go to the toilet  .
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Bubbling forth and simmering
my crystal eyes all glimmering
Twin Peaks was
out..... there... and ....
was I too?
flailing in the backyard
screaming,
crying,
laughing?
Assimilation Happens 
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