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MHRB Cold Water Extraction
    #12068606 - 02/20/10 11:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Background
Alright if you have been following my exploits (doubtful) you know that I have had poor luck with DMT. My first extraction a STB was not very successful (56g yeilded <200mg spice). Practice makes perfect, and I now have more spice than I know what to do with, as well as a sizeable amount of powdered MHRB.

My inability to consume DMT through vaporization (results in involuntary vomiting Oo) is forcing me to seek other methods. I take ssri, offlabel for digestive issues, and it works WONDERS- I have no desire to quit taking it, therefore MAOI and "pharmahuasca" are a no-go.

Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark Cold Water Extraction
aka. Jurema


Preparation varies but is usually between 20g and 40g of MHRB (powdered). The powder is mixed with 125ml cold water, shaken well and left in the fridge overnight in an airtight container. The resulting sludge is strained through a coffeefilter, and the procedure is dont a second time. The resulting 250ml of jurema is active without the additional use of an MAOI according to the interwebs (which can never lie)

The reason apparently given is that the rootbark actually contains its own MAOI which is broken down if heated. Wikipedia says that:

"To date no β-carbolines such as harmala alkaloids have been detected in Mimosa tenuiflora decoctions, yet the root bark is consistently used without added MAOI."
source

If not an MAOI- perhaps the culprit is the much speculated about Yuremamine:

"As a pure compound, yuremamine is a purple amorphous solid. It represents an entirely new family of indole derivatives. It is interesting to note that this compound contains N,N-dimethyltryptamine within its molecular structure. Perhaps yuremamine acts as an MAOI, being metabolically protected itself through intra-molecular hydrogen bonding of its tertiary amine, or perhaps yuremamine acts as a prodrug and releases DMT closer to its site of action."
wiki
original abstract

I have found many links to recipes and forum threads about this, but no real conclusive successful experiences or trip reports from it. My question is two fold...

1) Is Jurema (cold water extracted MHRB) safe to mix with ssri's?
2) Has anyone personally experienced a jurema trip and would like to share?

Edited by majora (02/20/10 11:09 PM)

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Re: MHRB Cold Water Extraction [Re: majora]
    #12068698 - 02/20/10 11:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Trip Reports I Found
Erowid - 40g - Light trip
Erowid - 20g - No trip
Mycotopia - Various - One "light" trip, several "I know a guy", several "no trips"

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Re: MHRB Cold Water Extraction [Re: majora]
    #12069320 - 02/21/10 02:26 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The colors in that mask are wonderful.


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Re: MHRB Cold Water Extraction [Re: Enjoywho]
    #12069358 - 02/21/10 02:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Just get some Caapi or syrian rue. Syrian Rue is really cheap and you can use it to potentiate the fuck out of weed, shrooms and acid.


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