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    #12010898 - 02/11/10 07:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

hmm interesting place for a home improvement forum. I'm currently working on my kitchen. Tiles are about halfway done, put in some radiant heat flooring. Waiting on an electrician to replace my panel and re-wire the kitchen. Just removed my old ass oil tank and replaced the furnace. Washing dishes in the bathtub is awesome, not to mention food prep... mmm whats up fuckers?


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12010902 - 02/11/10 07:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

floor heating, nice

pics?


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #12011114 - 02/11/10 08:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)







Totally worth it, especially on tile work. I've installed it twice before this at my old place.


Edited by Irradiated_Feces (02/13/10 03:17 PM)


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12011124 - 02/11/10 08:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

damn dude that's really cool, is that copper wire yer puttin down?

what's the power source/how do you have it hooked up?


Edited by Flop Johnson (02/11/10 08:33 PM)


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #12011237 - 02/11/10 08:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's called True Comfort, not sure what kind of wire it is really. The length is pretty long so it needs to hookup to a 240 volt source. You cant cut or cross the wire either. It hooks up to a digital thermostat along with a little sensor wire. Not hooked up yet until I finish the tiles though, and get the electrician in.


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12011288 - 02/11/10 08:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

fascinating, i think yer gonna like that a lot :thumbup:


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12014930 - 02/12/10 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

do heated floors save on energy costs or are they a comfort thing only?


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Re: Kitchens [Re: cherokee]
    #12016909 - 02/12/10 06:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Definitely one of the more efficient ways to heat a home, if you can get a good system set up.

*EDIT:  The images just loaded for me and I saw that it's an electric setup, which is probably more expensive than a hydronic one which uses hot water pumped through pex tubing in the floor.  You can build solar collecting heat banks outside with water reservoirs that stay pretty hot/warm, and use that to circulate the heat through the house using various valves, etc.


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12018601 - 02/12/10 11:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Irradiated_Feces said:


Totally worth it, especially on tile work. I've installed it twice before this at my old place.





you really need that stuff mixed faster, grab a couple friends and do it
in a trashcan 2-3 bags at a time, mix it loose and let it self level, if
anything you just need a smoother, not a trowel until you put patch in
on the edges... grab a few guys



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Re: Kitchens [Re: cherokee]
    #12018646 - 02/12/10 11:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

cherokee said:
do heated floors save on energy costs or are they a comfort thing only?





they save a tremendous amount on heating mostly on the placebo effect, if
your feet are warm you'll feel warmer and kick the thermostat down a bit, 
with tile and cements you actually have a thermal mass that picks up the
heat and retains it for a while, if the system cycles off it it then
releases the warmth


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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
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Re: Kitchens [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12021692 - 02/13/10 03:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

idioteks right it's probably cheaper to go the heated water tubes route, but then again that's not really a DIY project, at least not for me. But it is a great heat source and good if you have allergies and don't want forced air blowing around.

Yea pris it would be way better to mix up a huge batch but i've just been doing short burst of work on it on top of my full-time job, so it's been just me doing it. I can't go any further right now because it's too bloody cold to mix up mortar or cut the tiles. Hopefully we get an early spring so I can finish this already.


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12022246 - 02/13/10 05:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

the reason for mixing large batches is to prevent delamination, if it's
one monolithic slab it's less likely to have any issues with sections
separating which will cause the flooring to come up, the area you're
covering looks to be fairly small overall, maybe 3 hours for 2 people
in mix and pour time and a couple days to dry

I'm used to doing 30,000+ square feet of the crap


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12026358 - 02/14/10 11:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So whats the deal with expansion joints? If my run is about 20 feet or so I was thinking of putting one in the middle. Do I just run a line of caulk instead of grout? My grout is jet black anyway so it may not be noticeable at all, but I'm not even sure if that's the right thing to do. Half of the kitchen goes through an extension on the house, which is why i'm concerned.


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #12027353 - 02/14/10 03:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

if you're using engineered cements like scofield, ardex or mapei
underlayments there's no need for expansion joints, these cements
are designed for almost no shrinkage, on large slabs of concrete
or using standard portland cement you'd need expansion joints

to make use of an expansion joint on that transition you can use a
piece of hemmed metal to reduce the size of the joint since there's
low expansion, just make sure it wont rise more than 1/8 inch into
your grout line, when you go to set the tiles use that expansion
joint as your starting point and fill that line with a polyurethane
caulk, it bonds well to almost everything and you can get textured
varieties to make it more closely resemble the grout

this is the polyurethane I'm partial to, I've used it for years and
never had an issue, make sure to spend a little extra cash on a good
caulk gun because this stuff will wear you out if you try using a
stamped steel one... call a local glass shop to see if they'll sell
you a tube or two, ask for CR Lawrence M66 textured/black
http://www.crlaurence.com/crlapps/showline/offerpage.aspx?Productid=1942&GroupID=934&History=39324:330:513:531&ModelID=934

hemmed sheet metal... usually pretty cheap
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Hem_sheetmetal.png


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12027360 - 02/14/10 03:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

why arent u a mod of this forum yet? :tongue:

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Re: Kitchens [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #12027591 - 02/14/10 03:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

it's a self moderating forum?


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Re: Kitchens [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12027600 - 02/14/10 03:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Kitchens [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #12027677 - 02/14/10 04:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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