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Question about my latest lsd trip
    #11910114 - 01/27/10 05:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have taken lsd a few times now and have had excellent trips every time.  The last trip i had was probably my most memorable and mind blowing experience.  One thing that did happen to me twice during that trip however was that when i had to pee, i took the LONGEST pee of my life.  It was abnormaly long and had me a bit worried.  When I'm not tripping i never have this problem.  Has anyone else experienced extremely long pisses while on lsd?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: magicmushroom5]
    #11910136 - 01/27/10 05:56 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

hahahah no!

it was most likely your perception of time d00d.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: magicmushroom5]
    #11910150 - 01/27/10 06:03 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Could that fall into the "moment of eternity" category, where a normal ammount of time seems to take forever? If so, then yes, it's one of the primary affects of halucinogenic substances.

If it just took way longer, i.e. you have a clock to time yourself, you could've been shedding excess water, or getting dehydrated. Who knows? I'm betting towards the first, as to accomplish this scenario you'd either need an excess ammount of urine (you'd know, like you'd had to pee really bad to where it'd hurt) or you'd have to have some contraction of the sphincter involved in regulating stream (it'd most likely just barely dribble out then[sorry I can't word this better]).

P.S. - I had a weird expirence too. I layed in bed and I broke. I mean, what I was seeing was cool and all, then I remember looking at the clock, three hours passed. It was like blinking 3 hours away. Like my brain locked up and I did nothing but be frozen for 3 hours. Seemed like a blink of an eye. I almost felt betrayed and ripped off. That could've been three hours of fun, but it was gone, almost like sleepin' it away, but while awake. Like the exact opposite of what happens normally. I guess I could say I had an eternity of moment.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: grimeyobject]
    #11910565 - 01/27/10 08:45 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously that's just because your sense of time is distorted on LSD... why not try timing the piss next time lol?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910610 - 01/27/10 08:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

LSD is a vasoconstrictor, this manifests mainly in your URINARY tract. Thusly making it MUCH harder to urinate while under the influence, sometimes even mildy painful or uncomfortable. It can even cause UTI's.

older heads know this all too well.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910631 - 01/27/10 08:58 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I've never had this problem actually and while your right it is a mild vasoconstrictor because of the 5ht2b receptor agonism, it usually isn't noticable at microgram doses. Not enough to cause the urination problems caused by mdma. And I've talked to some "old heads" who know nearly nothing about tryptamine chemistry and are full blown retarded. i understand how it works but I've never seen this problem on real LSD. But obviously you know it becomes way more of a problem when your lsd isn't lsd... like on 2,4,5 substituted phens or amps.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910655 - 01/27/10 09:02 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

just b/c it hasn't effected you doesn't mean it won't.

how many times have you taken L b4?

i didn't start to notice until probably after the 10th time or so.

it is definately noticable enough to bother me.

wait also just as a side question, what other drugs are active at small enough dosages that they can fit onto a blotter? (besides from the ones you can taste the bitter DOx chems)


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910664 - 01/27/10 09:04 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely more than 10 times and I've only had this problem with phens, even on high dose mushrooms its not supposed to happen because tryps don't show thta much affinity for 5ht2b, waaaay less than a phen, especially an amphetamine would. Are u sure ur getting real lsd and not some Dox?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910696 - 01/27/10 09:10 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

not sure at all actually. could easily be an amph or phen that I've just never heard of.

Are there any tasteless chemicals that are active in small enough dosages that they can fit on a blotter?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910739 - 01/27/10 09:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

the vaso constrict is real, so as a tripping person you notice that unusual difference, right when everything can be normal, and it seemmmssss  oofffffffffoooooooooooorrrrrrr eeeverrr. ask anyone after coming out of a stadium mens room at a summer dead show in buffalo? interview the guys on there way out and ask them how long it took...just in theory


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910751 - 01/27/10 09:20 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Tasteless? LSA? But LSA should show less vasoconstriction than LSD... There are a few rare ones ALD-52, BOL-41, but they're pretty rare and I don't think they'd have much effect on blood vessels or like you said it could be something unheard of. DOC may or may not have a taste I'm not sure I've never tried it. Or it could be an illusion caused by pyshcedelics, like sometimes you get mad physical symptoms off the same batch but its all really going on in your head


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910759 - 01/27/10 09:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i was tripping face at rothbury last year and had to pee. when i actually did go, it really was the longest pee of my life. i was laughing because of the amount of fluid exiting my body


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: Infirno112]
    #11910771 - 01/27/10 09:25 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not saying its impossible, theres people who report getting tweaked off levo-methamp, I'm just saying talk even to most of the people on this site who take LSD... the reason its so renowned is the absence of peripheral effects which includes vasoconstriction. Its a weird drug tho, I've gotten batches of it that don't have a taste and mentally it FEELS like lucy but theres these weird body feelings that come with it. The trip, come up and duration all match LSD but something doesn't feel right. As to what that is I have no idea but I'd love to hear theories on it.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910793 - 01/27/10 09:30 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

differences in crystal.

silver labeled LSD will usually cramp my back, and make me have a slightly uncomfortable body load, the trip can still be intense, but it seems like the visuals arent as "filled in" or colorful.

fluff is a nice clean head trip, essentially zero body load.

whether its placebo effect, or its real, I know exactly what you mean by different "feeling" acid

some shit is just more bomb than other shit:shrug: i think a chemist that gives their acid a little more love is going to have better acid IMO

also some people take great care of their paper to make sure it doesn't get dirty, and stays out of the sun, etc.....other people (hippies) don't really give a shit and let it get all grimey and shit, maybe it could be a bacterial reaction?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910811 - 01/27/10 09:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

What u mean labeled? That doesn't really clarify anything I mean do you know what fluctuations on the molecule during the synth would cause peripheral effects to become present while leaving the central activity unaffected ?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910832 - 01/27/10 09:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

you probably just held it longer than usual and didn't realize it, this happens to me allot. but Ive never been worried, i think super long pees feel great haha


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910838 - 01/27/10 09:39 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

the main contention was that LSD isn't always "LSD". Known crystal labeled "silver" may actually have other actives in it, unknown to chemistry and science..... remember ppl LSD is not FDA approved, these are chemists making this shit at home...some synths of LSD *COULD* produce active analogues(that could explain subjective differences in LSD crystal) while the most pure crystal (swiss and such) may just be the PURE molecule...resulting in only central effects.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910842 - 01/27/10 09:40 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That makes sense but couldn't you detect all the impurities with gc/ms? If you had access to it?


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: tony serro]
    #11910869 - 01/27/10 09:45 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

perhaps certain chemists do not take the time nor care to minimize impurities....hence a chemist that gives his acid more "love" is going to have bomber shit.


or...it could just be placebo.

All I know is that more often than not, if im eating tabs that im told are "silver", it's going to cramp my back, my muscles, and make the trip just that much more anxious.

LSD that ppl call "fluff" more often than not, just gives me that straight spacecase head trip.

Let me say this: I admit that these "subjective" differences in crsytal quality COULD EASILY just be placebo! it could all be in my head...not going to deny experiencing it myself however.


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Re: Question about my latest lsd trip [Re: AntiEverything]
    #11910879 - 01/27/10 09:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I don't get what u mean by silver I've never heard the term b4, but yea you understand what I'm talking about... Its the same mental high, but theres the addition of peripheral effects and more anxiety and yea i get the cramps and stuff too sometimes.. I don't think its placebo (its possible but too many people report too similar effects) i just thought anyone making lsd actually WOULD care about the quality and not just the money.


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