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 soldatheero
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 Regardless of fact or fiction this is interesting. 
#11869761 - 01/21/10 01:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meher Baba on Stars and Planets
"What is there in the universe? Billions and billions of nebulae. Every nebula contains millions of worlds, and ours is the Earth.
What is there in the whole universe? It is gas in its 276 Subtle states. Before gas turns into the first manifestation of the Gross, it evolves through 276 Subtle stages. None of the scientists knows about these 276 Subtle forms of gas before its first manifestation in the Gross. Subtle gas very gradually turns into Gross form such as hydrogen, oxygen, etc. In the nebulae, in all heavenly bodies and in the planets there is evolution. All of evolution begins from the nebulae. The 276 Subtle stages begin from the beginning of the nebulae, which are at the source of Subtle energy (Pran) and Subtle space (Akash)."
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"As previously explained, there are an infinite number of worlds which have cooled down. And for each such world to cool down takes cycles and cycles -- imagine how long! But when a man attains Realisation, and ascends to the seventh plane, he feels as if only a second has passed. That is, no time has actually passed during the numberless changes of forms, and deaths and births of 84 lakhs -- eight million, four hundred thousand times. Now I know that according to you, it accounts for billions of years, and there is no limit to accounting. But my experience is that nothing has happened, and there is no time spent.
There are seven worlds, seven skies, seven suns, seven moons, seven planes and seven heavens. Why this figure seven? And sanskaras too are of seven colors. Why? Because in the very beginning when Pran clashed with Akash, it created seven divisions. The explosive friction between Pran and Akash created seven dazzling colors.
Each individual human being is a universe unto himself. In the head there are seven openings: two eyes, two ears, two nostrils, and one mouth. In the body there are seven parts: two arms, two legs, two openings (front and back), and one trunk.
But all this explaining of the universe and creation relates to the hair, and has nothing to do with the head. So first try to get hold of the head, because out of it comes everything. (Baba drew a man's head and hair.) The barber's work is to shave the head. And who is the barber in this case? Mahapralaya. For when it occurs, all the hairs -- universes -- on God's head are shaved off. It is said that the universes pour out of the Godhead. They are like God's hair. Your head may symbolise God, and your hair the universes."
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"God is infinite reality, whereas cosmos is infinite illusion. But both are not infinite in the same sense. God is one infinite, and illusion is infinite in numbers. God is infinite unity, and illusion infinite duality. Always God is. All along illusion is not. Illusion or no illusion, God remains beginningless and endless, while illusion has a beginning in illusion and it also ends in illusion. The infinite illusion includes an infinite number of suns, stars, moons, planets and worlds. The whole of the creation goes on evolving ad infinitum in illusion."
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"In the cosmogony of this universe, this Earth of ours has a special significance, being much nearer to the spiritual sphere. There are other worlds where much mental development is marked. But spiritual progress really begins on this Earth."
"It is a scientifically acknowledged fact that the stellar regions, planets and stars do exert an influence on the life and activity of this planet, the Earth. And since this Earth of ours has the highest evolved organic life, and the human happens to be the nearest to the spiritual plane, the phenomenon of eclipse does indirectly affect the world spiritually.
The Rishis of old knew all too well the astronomical basis and the spiritual influence of such a heavenly occurrence. Looking at the average mentality of the masses of their time, the Rishis could do no better than issue cut-and-dried instructions as to prayers, penance and austerities, investing the whole affair with a religious importance, rather than give a rational and spiritual elucidation. In course of time the religious do's and don'ts of the wise Rishis were very cleverly woven round by self-seeking priests, with a picturesque and awe-inspiring legend of the gods, demons, nectar, the Moon in travail, and its subsequent moksha (freedom), for purposes all too patent to thinking minds. Such legendary superstitions persist and flourish with ignorance and illiteracy, but now people are outgrowing such childish beliefs. There is, however, no denying the fact that a few prayers and ordeals undergone with keen concentration, concurrently with the eclipse of the Sun or Moon, do result in great spiritual benefit to the individual concerned."
If you found this interesting you can read more here.
http://www.meherbabadnyana.net/life_eternal/Book_One/Planets_Stars.htm
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..and may the zelda theme song be with you at all times, amen.
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g00ru
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Re: Regardless of fact or fiction this is interesting. [Re: soldatheero]
#11869793 - 01/21/10 01:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is quite interesting. I blows my mind how realized people say crazy shit like this...it's very similar in "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Yogananda Paramhansa. But I don't ever take it to heart too much, because in the end I can only rely on my own observations to make deductions. I'm not a huge fan of faith.
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soldatheero
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Re: Regardless of fact or fiction this is interesting. [Re: g00ru]
#11869886 - 01/21/10 01:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's very similar in "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Yogananda Paramhansa
Sweet i'll check that out. Ya its pretty wild stuff theres no doubt.
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Re: Regardless of fact or fiction this is interesting. [Re: soldatheero]
#11870413 - 01/21/10 05:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can relate to some of it.
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God is infinite reality, whereas cosmos is infinite illusion. But both are not infinite in the same sense. God is one infinite, and illusion is infinite in numbers. God is infinite unity, and illusion infinite duality. Always God is. All along illusion is not. Illusion or no illusion, God remains beginningless and endless, while illusion has a beginning in illusion and it also ends in illusion. The infinite illusion includes an infinite number of suns, stars, moons, planets and worlds. The whole of the creation goes on evolving ad infinitum in illusion.
All of infinity exists in a state of pure potential outside of time and space. What we experience is a certain reflection of infinity, distorted in a way that allows for this specific experience.
Or, another way to attempt to explain it;
"God is infinite unity"
There is only one consciousness, but at the level where it is able to be all of infinity at once it cannot know itself. If you could view everything that existed at once, there would actually be no experience, because there would be nothing to contrast infinity against. Experience is generated by the relation of two or more opposites.
"and illusion infinite duality"
So the one consciousness views itself internally from subjective perspectives because it can't see itself all at once. Duality allows for experience by contrast.
"Illusion or no illusion, God remains beginningless and endless, while illusion has a beginning in illusion and it also ends in illusion"
The one consciousness will always exist in a state of pure potential outside of time. Time is generated from a dualistic, subjective perspective inside the one. All beginnings and endings are in a sense illusionary, because they only exist from within a certain view that the one consciousness can take; everything that could exist does exist in an eternal present.
No wonder this stuff is always spoken in metaphors. It is very hard to explain in explain clearly, although I can see it quite well intuitively.
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soldatheero
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Re: Regardless of fact or fiction this is interesting. [Re: Tranquil Toad]
#11874060 - 01/21/10 07:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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All of infinity exists in a state of pure potential outside of time and space. What we experience is a certain reflection of infinity, distorted in a way that allows for this specific experience.
wicked true. you should really read meher baba's stuff you can defenitely grasp it.
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