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 KJA
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 Why so many mutants only on the first flush? 
#11871606 - 01/21/10 10:13 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Excuse the noob question, but I am wondering what could cause tons of small mushies that happen to also be mostly mutants, to then go on to have a nice second flush with big mushies and no mutants.
At first I thought that it must be the strain (Ecuador) or the grower (first timer me  ). But then the second flush was beautiful, so I just want to make sure I don't do what I did the first time. This was a mycobag that I had waited 3 1/2 weeks from full colonization, then birthed into a shotgun to try to induce pinning. 2 1/2 weeks after that I had pins, and two weeks later full mushies.
(In this picture I had picked off a lot of the mutants because their caps were open and they were dropping spores.)
1 week after that I had the second flush with full fruits 8 days later.
Each flush was exactly 12 grams dry (not sure if this is good or not, but it was great for me )
So what gives? Is there anyway to avoid the tiny mutants I got the first time?
Thanks!
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 mellowparty
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: KJA]
#11871657 - 01/21/10 10:25 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first grow was totally flawed by a viral or bacterial induced mutation. RR suggested that it may be due to the premature spawning and I really did birth them a bit earlier then I was supposed to. However I had only flush of extremely potent sclerotia balls that were trippy as fuck. Id give anything to have those mutants back.
Im not really sure why u had mutants only on the 1st flush but whatever u do keep them and enjoy. I love mutant mushies
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: mellowparty]
#11871665 - 01/21/10 10:26 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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First pic, the block is really blue from dryness. That's part of it, I feel certain.
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: mellowparty]
#11871757 - 01/21/10 10:43 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by grrr31 (01/21/10 10:44 AM)
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: Doc_T]
#11871797 - 01/21/10 10:50 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you by any chance use bleach? I know many wouldn't agree but I noticed bleach (and maybe even bleach fumes) can badly affect the way your mushrooms grow. I can't prove it though. 
Look at this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6100960#6100960
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Everything you have learned in school as obvious becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There is not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines.(Bucky Fuller)
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: LeopardMan]
#11872089 - 01/21/10 11:39 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mutants can be caused by the use of chemical sanitizers, such as lysol.
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: LeopardMan]
#11872097 - 01/21/10 11:40 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mutants can be caused by the use of chemical sanitizers, such as lysol.
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: JonEveryman88]
#11872098 - 01/21/10 11:41 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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oops double post.
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: JonEveryman88]
#11872135 - 01/21/10 11:45 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
JonEveryman88 said:
Mutants can be caused by the use of chemical sanitizers, such as lysol.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6957036#6957036
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Everything you have learned in school as obvious becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There is not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines.(Bucky Fuller)
Psychedelics and beyond: a video library The heat shock: How LM makes his cakes AMU movie thread On water absorption
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: LeopardMan]
#11872153 - 01/21/10 11:47 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everything you have learned in school as obvious becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There is not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines.(Bucky Fuller)
Psychedelics and beyond: a video library The heat shock: How LM makes his cakes AMU movie thread On water absorption
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KJA
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: LeopardMan]
#11872222 - 01/21/10 11:57 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
LeopardMan said:
Did you by any chance use bleach? I know many wouldn't agree but I noticed bleach (and maybe even bleach fumes) can badly affect the way your mushrooms grow. I can't prove it though.
Look at this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6100960#6100960
No bleach or anything like that. We don't even have harsh cleaners in our home. Only baking soda and regular soap.
I am starting to think that maybe a lot of the pin caps were touching and fused. I don't know.
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: Doc_T]
#11872227 - 01/21/10 11:58 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc_T said:
First pic, the block is really blue from dryness. That's part of it, I feel certain.
This makes sense. Thanks 
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: KJA]
#11872233 - 01/21/10 11:59 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh. OK nevermind what I said. misinformed.
thank-you
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Re: Why so many mutants only on the first flush? [Re: KJA]
#11872249 - 01/21/10 12:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
KJA said:
Quote:
Doc_T said:
First pic, the block is really blue from dryness. That's part of it, I feel certain.
This makes sense. Thanks
Yeah, this really makes sense.
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Everything you have learned in school as obvious becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There is not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines.(Bucky Fuller)
Psychedelics and beyond: a video library The heat shock: How LM makes his cakes AMU movie thread On water absorption
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