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 LuSiD9
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 Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth?  [Re: Brother O]
#11666598 - 12/17/09 06:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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drunk = euphoria, fun, connecting with others in ways you wouldn't otherwise.. time well wasted... no pun intended 
Hangovers = sleep parlaysis = out of body experiences/vivid lucid dreams... at least for me
what would you consider spiritual growth by the way, OP, if you don't mind me asking... (or anyone else for that matter)
Edited by LuSiD9 (12/17/09 06:57 AM)
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LuSiD9
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: Brother O]
#11666604 - 12/17/09 06:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brother O said:
Alcohol is called spiritsfor a reason. I do drink. And I do believe in spirituality. Nothing can destroy ones spirituality except falling to the Demons of Despair. Life is to be lived. Expirienced. Eat, Drink, and BE Merry, for tomorrow we die!
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Our laws make law impossible; our liberties destroy all freedom; our property is organized robbery; our morality an impudent hypocrisy; our wisdom is administered by inexperienced or mal-experienced dupes; our power wielded by cowards and weaklings; and our honour false in all its points. I am an enemy of the existing order for good reasons.
Nobel Prize genius Crick was high on LSD when he discovered the secret of life
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Sleepwalker
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: LuSiD9]
#11666982 - 12/17/09 10:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm getting wasted tonight! And probably tomorrow as well!
Hell, I'm young.  I have time to turn myself inside out into the pooper.
As others have said, it's up to each individual to decide for themselves what is beneficial to their path. Getting drunk is a neutral event.
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 deCypher
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#11667174 - 12/17/09 11:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oweyervishice said:
I'm getting wasted tonight! And probably tomorrow as well!
Hell, I'm young.
It's not called alcoholism until after you graduate college, aye?
Just kidding, I'm probably getting sloshed tonight and tomorrow as well. 
Quote:
yabbahabba said:
I procrastinated with my decision to walk away from the bottle and all the sudden found myself unable to escape it. I became a willing slave to my impulse which resulted in a huge pile of reeking regret. But that little demon dude inside of me knows it's not such a big deal and it's totally worth it. Demon dude don't judge me. Demon dude friend. Demon dude warm. Fuzzy. *droolsnoredrool*
There certainly is an inner demon invoked by substance addiction; a demon who cares about nothing but consuming more and MORE until you're left a enslaved, hollowed-out husk propelled only by the insatiable winds of your own desire. The Buddhist concept of the hungry ghost is very apt here.
Took up with whiskey
to drown my sorrows.
All that's happened is
they've become
better swimmers.
--Steve Sanfield
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: deCypher]
#11667789 - 12/17/09 01:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahh, great thread.
I too have issues with enjoying marijuana highs. I dunno, I have always had a hunch that smoking so much herb so often is a waste, especially if you put it into the context of that article in the other thread called the green underworld. Only smoke it for specific purposes, to achieve a higher state of sublime meditative transcendence.
But lets be honest here, like that quote decypher left we shouldn't claim to be superior in any way because of our sobriety or specific way to partake in intoxicants and drugs of any nature. Getting high is great fun at times, and there is not a damn thing wrong with that.
Theres also nothing wrong with choosing to maintain any degree of sobriety. I don't drink alcohol anymore because it makes me physically uncomfortable.
Dude, I used to go to rite aid and steal fifths of whiskey and gin ALL THE TIME. And I would drink 'em straight, usually finishing them off in one or two days. It was getting UGLY. What all changed it for me was a severe panic/anxiety attack I had whilst getting stoned and drunk in my backyard with friends. Never had I experienced something so terrifying and unnerving, it just crept up out of nowhere and scared the shit out of me. I was shaken up until I started to sober up at least 2-3 hours later.
Looking back on it, I can honestly say I felt a lot of energy centers in my body opening up, much like chakra-flow. It doesn't matter in this context whether you believe in chakras or not, the point is the energy is felt by people and they try to define it, confine it scientifically and stifle the fire. Its bullshit. Not to get off on too bad a tangent here, but this needs to be said. I don't believe panic attacks/anxiety attacks are even real. I think people feel intense waves of energy and choose to interpret it in a fearful way because in the end its fight/flight/freeze/fuck for us and our puny egos.
Right on. I don't drink anymore, but I could care less who does. I actually miss the taste of a good beer...beer is delicious!
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Tension is who you think you should be. Relaxation is who you are.
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QuantumMeltdown
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: Ozekat]
#11679062 - 12/19/09 04:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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For an alcoholic like myself it was spiritual poison.
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Tony
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#11684707 - 12/20/09 08:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think alcohol can serve its purpose in integration like all substances that shift consciousness and bring out certain latent tendencies or feelings. We don't think of it that way when we do it. We just get wasted and run amock. But it's a stage of growth because eventually we'll be able to use those hazy memories to understand ourselves better. That's the idea anyhow. What psychedelics are for compassion and creativity, alcohol is for need and depravity. It's all a part of you 
Oh, and beer is awesome in small to moderate quantities, especially on a hot day and on an empty stomach 
Edited by Tony (12/20/09 08:36 AM)
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Re: Alcohol detrimental to Spiritual growth? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#11684782 - 12/20/09 08:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't enjoy alcohol much & im very thankful that i don't as ive seen it consume people around me, it so true how people literally drown their sorrows.
Ever since i was a kid the idea of it turned me off.
Having a litte drink can be nice, but if i go beyond 1 drink i feel poisoned, as thats what it is, drinking rotten fruit, poison
The next day im fine, i've never had a morning hangover no mater how much ive drunk, i get it the same night a few hours after drinking, instant karma!
Im not saying its all bad, but at the end of the day (when it comes to spirituality) its an intoxicant, a mind altering drug which induces an altered state of consciousness.
Spirituality is not about altered states of consciousness, it is about the natural un-alterable state of consciousness, which at first recognition to the mind seems incredible & 'new' but really its eternally present.
So its not an altered state, its the natural state.
What we usually take to be our natural state, ths mind & body, is infact an altered state of consciousness!
Edited by The Chronic (12/20/09 09:05 AM)
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