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 eligal
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As for soy and egg protein, I haven't heard of many people getting powders for them so I'm not too sure.
Men should avoid Soy products.
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 Re: Conditioning and Strength Training  [Re: DarkMoon21]
#11442718 - 11/12/09 07:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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after reading your whole post,  
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: deranger]
#11442750 - 11/12/09 07:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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why do people feel the need to bulk up their muscles?
being fit and having a nice body is nice but i don't get why more is needed.
i guess maybe for rock climbing...
but that is besides the point.
(i know this doesn't have much to do with the OP but i am curious)
DarkMoon21 made alot of great points.
For me, i like challenging myself and pride myself on my ability to carry heavier loads, run/ride up big hills, and put aside the pain + failure factor that most people let limit themselves during physical pursuits.
Healthy body and healthy mind are key to spiritual balance IMO.
For me, i have constantly had issues with injuring joints (shoulders, elbows, wrists, ankles, and knees.) So currently i am "building" functional strength to avoid future injuries doing what i do.
Being able to turn a tire iron, pick up a fallen over motorcycle, smash an anvil, climb a mountain, swim, run, through hike, etc. all require strength.
I dont want balloon muscles but prefer dense, slim but toned - that's what i am aiming for...
Ultimately seeing results and knowing your are physically capable of "more than the next guy" is a major self confidence boost. After this happens, one ends up doubting themselves less and this has a spin-off effect on becoming more successful in all ones pursuits.
IMO.
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: PDU]
#11442838 - 11/12/09 08:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah. i was looking for the kind of answer DarkMoon21 gave.
i was thinking maybe the meatheads would give their funny answers, but guess not. 
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: PDU]
#11442852 - 11/12/09 08:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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PDU said:
Healthy body and healthy mind are key to spiritual balance IMO.
that's what i meant by this
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being fit and having a nice body is nice but i don't get why more is needed.
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: eligal]
#11443637 - 11/12/09 09:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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eligal said:
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surferdude66066 said:
As for soy and egg protein, I haven't heard of many people getting powders for them so I'm not too sure.
Men should avoid Soy products.
So I've heard, sorry, I forgot to mention that 
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meams
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why should men avoid soy?
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: meams]
#11443967 - 11/12/09 10:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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meams said:
why should men avoid soy?
Soy increases estrogen levels in men. However, its really not a concern unless you are eating tofu several times a week and drinking soymilk, etc.
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: meams]
#11444015 - 11/12/09 10:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's a lot of conflicting ideas but some say it messes w/ a male's testosterone.
I feel that a man would have to drink, or eat, a lot of soy to get any negative effects. I eat soy icecream once a wk or so.
edit: damn PDU, i gotta type faster 
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eligal
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Alright, for olympic lifts, most important thing, like squats, is to keep your back strong and chest wide. Start from a JUMP stance, rather than an athletic stance (jump stance, your feet are slightly narrower than shoulder width, athletic stance, your feet are slightly wider than shoulder width)..
So why the narrow stance? Feels more natural with my feet a little farther apart.
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: eligal]
#11457453 - 11/15/09 02:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not really that narrow, just narrower than say, a squat stance...and the reason is because in an explosive movement you want your knees facing straight forward, the way they are when you run. However, when you squat, you want a slightly wider stance to engage more of your glutes and outer quad muscle. That make sense? Sorry if it doesn't...I'm pretty out of it right now.
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wykydtron
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Anyone interested in strength training should read Starting Strength and Practical Programming by Mark Rippetoe.
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DarkMoon21
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Re: Conditioning and Strength Training [Re: wykydtron]
#11462279 - 11/15/09 08:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey it's the Wykydtron! It's the Wykydtron! whhoooOOAA!
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