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 Shamanintraining
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 "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds 
#7936198 - 01/26/08 04:08 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are the "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose seeds from Ghana good for tripping?
The website says Quote:
These untreated seeds are imported directly from Ghana. Not nearly as high quality as our organic Hawaiian seeds, but we still guarantee about a 20% germination rate. Yes, these are A. nervosa seeds, but are a different strain and don't have the fuzzy coating associated with seeds from Hawaii.
Seeds of the Argyreia nervosa (Not this particular strain of HBWR; these Ghana seeds are from Africa!) may have once been used in sacramental rituals in the Pacific Islands, where they were used by high priests. But the beautiful plant that comes from these seeds is the truly magnificent thing about Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds. Properly cultivated this plant would still make an interesting addition to any garden, though, and because these seeds are so inexpensive, you can spread a large amount over a wide area.
Strictly NOT for human consumption in any way!
Consumption of these seeds in the USA is illegal.
But I am not sure if they can be consumed for their LSA. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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 Entropymancer
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As I understand it, there are certain varietals, such as the hawaiian train, that are fair to excellent for tripping. From what I've read, the ghana varietal is not very effective for this purpose. I've personally only tried the ghana seeds once (9 seeds) with no appreciable effect.
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Coaster
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: Entropymancer]
#7936312 - 01/26/08 04:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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i heard oliliqui is the best for LSA
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aNeway2sayHooray
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From what I have read in the past,if the seeds dont have the fuzzy coat on them then they have very low amounts of LSA,if any at all.
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: Coaster]
#7936530 - 01/26/08 05:22 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
i heard oliliqui is the best for LSA
Where did you hear that? Erowid has limited info on Ololiuqui.
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Entropymancer
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He's probably thinking about the fact that natives reportedly only had to eat a few seeds to get off on oliluiqui. But you're right, as far as I know, no one has demonstrated that the seeds of Rivea corymbosa actually contain alkaloids sufficient to produce this effect. As far as the literature is concerned, HBWR are the most abundant in lysergic acid amides.
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: Entropymancer]
#7937612 - 01/26/08 08:38 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know what source you're talking about. I ordered that and it was completely inactive. It may have just been a fluke, but think about it- why would they offer something equally strong for less? And considering how cheap HBWR is already, I'd advise against trying to shave off a few bucks.
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: Yossarian22]
#7937764 - 01/26/08 09:04 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Yossarian22 said:
I know what source you're talking about. I ordered that and it was completely inactive. It may have just been a fluke, but think about it- why would they offer something equally strong for less? And considering how cheap HBWR is already, I'd advise against trying to shave off a few bucks.
Yeah I wasn't, but the site I wanted to buy from doesn't accept my CC and the other one that I was looking at was out of stock.
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doitagain
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is oliliqui morning glory seeds because they are definitely active you just need to eat a whole lot of them. like 200-300
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 Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: doitagain]
#11281854 - 10/20/09 12:12 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Got about 120 HBWR seeds very high alkaloid content due to the age of the Vine:
was wandering instead of doing the hole non polar naptha extraction method to get rid of cyanogenic glucosides maybe skipping that process cause of the cancerous carcinogen like benzine and go right to the isopropyl/Everclear...
id say let the seeds soak in the iso 2/3 days after polvarizing them in a coffee grinder refrigirate em shaking every now and then filter all the seed crapola out might have to repeat 2 3 times and evaporate the isoprop, then put the leftover goo in some 50 ml vodka filter out and viola! i mean there would still be some nausea but that shouldnt be a problem to the experienced psychonaut right?
Any suggestions much appreciated especially if youve done this before!!
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: reptillian]
#11282043 - 10/20/09 01:15 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont you use the naptha to kill off the shit that causes nausea? if going straight to the alcohol soak then wouldnt those chemicals carry over too?
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: tictactone]
#11282515 - 10/20/09 06:25 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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No extraction method that I've read about has totally eliminated nausea.
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Re: "Hawaiian" Baby Woodrose Seeds [Re: tictactone]
#11282531 - 10/20/09 06:32 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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well they say HBWR seeds have: lsa/lsh bad chemical#1 and bad chemical #2 the naptha gets rid of chemical #2 and isopropyl leaves behind bad chemical #1 and absorbs the lsa so im thinking it shouldnt be as bad as the standard water extraction method plus im using a shitload of seeds.
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