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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: user808]
#11134094 - 09/26/09 08:12 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its about time, Word has been spreading about this. This is the first time I have read about it though.
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beandip
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: user808]
#11134608 - 09/26/09 09:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh so I guess I don't have a monopoly lol.
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silosighbin
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: user808]
#11135552 - 09/27/09 03:18 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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fuck that, they can't get rid of menthol
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Dr. Siekadellyk
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: user808]
#11136273 - 09/27/09 08:27 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cities across the country -- from New York to Santa Cruz, Calif. -- are considering or have already banned smoking at parks and beaches. I am afraid that issuing tickets to people for smoking outdoors could easily be abused by overzealous law enforcement.
Let's look at how New York handles another "decriminalized" drug in our state: marijuana. Despite decriminalizing marijuana more than 30 years ago, New York is the marijuana arrest capital of the world.
If possession of marijuana is supposed to be decriminalized in New York, how does this happen? Often it's because, in the course of interacting with the police, individuals are asked to empty their pockets, which results in the pot being "open to public view" -- which is, technically, a crime.
More than 40,000 people were arrested in New York City last year for marijuana possession, and 87 percent of those arrested were black or Latino, despite equal rates of marijuana use among whites. The fact is that blacks and Latinos are arrested for pot at much higher rates in part because officers make stop-and-frisk searches disproportionately in black, Latino and low-income neighborhoods.
Unfortunately, when we make laws and place restrictions on both legal and illegal drugs, people of color are usually the ones busted. Drug use may not discriminate, but our drug policies and enforcement do.
Fucking rediculous
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
#11136599 - 09/27/09 09:47 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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More than 40,000 people were arrested in New York City last year for marijuana possession, and 87 percent of those arrested were black or Latino, despite equal rates of marijuana use among whites. The fact is that blacks and Latinos are arrested for pot at much higher rates in part because officers make stop-and-frisk searches disproportionately in black, Latino and low-income neighborhoods.
Unfortunately, when we make laws and place restrictions on both legal and illegal drugs, people of color are usually the ones busted. Drug use may not discriminate, but our drug policies and enforcement do.
I thought this part was particularly interesting, because it shows that abolitionist, moral paranoia was completely beside the point.
I believe the authorities harass people, who are genuinely friendly.
Probable cause comes later.
They used to pick employed people off the street, charge them with indigence, and force them to labor for free.
These men cooperated and were abused anyway.
I am not considered a minority. I don't have a bad reputation, but I feel sorry for people who are so easily taken advantage of.
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: durian_2008]
#11136947 - 09/27/09 11:06 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said:
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More than 40,000 people were arrested in New York City last year for marijuana possession, and 87 percent of those arrested were black or Latino, despite equal rates of marijuana use among whites. The fact is that blacks and Latinos are arrested for pot at much higher rates in part because officers make stop-and-frisk searches disproportionately in black, Latino and low-income neighborhoods.
Unfortunately, when we make laws and place restrictions on both legal and illegal drugs, people of color are usually the ones busted. Drug use may not discriminate, but our drug policies and enforcement do.
I thought this part was particularly interesting, because it shows that abolitionist, moral paranoia was completely beside the point.
I believe the authorities harass people, who are genuinely friendly.
Probable cause comes later.
They used to pick employed people off the street, charge them with indigence, and force them to labor for free.
These men cooperated and were abused anyway.
I am not considered a minority. I don't have a bad reputation, but I feel sorry for people who are so easily taken advantage of.
The state's soldiers- the police; always prey on the ignorant and the poor.
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: pwnasaurus]
#11142183 - 09/28/09 07:01 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said: Very well written! I love his writing style and tone, it's well done.
I like the way Mayor Michael Bloomberg comes across in this article.
Our gov't should not ban any more substances. We can't afford the enforcement and it is silly.
No to Prohibition!
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durian_2008

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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: shroomgatherer]
#11142379 - 09/28/09 08:06 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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IMHO -- Licensing requirements, across the entire spectrum of goods and services, are a form of prohibition.
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: user808]
#11143558 - 09/28/09 12:05 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The new regulation halted the sale of vanilla and chocolate cigarettes that anti-smoking advocates claim lure young people into smoking.
that sounds so dumb. not a single kid cares how it tastes or what its called, 90 percent of the people i know that smoked started because their friends smoked and for some dumb reason they think it makes them look cool if it aint green i dont smoke it
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: durian_2008]
#11148067 - 09/29/09 12:12 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said: IMHO -- Licensing requirements, across the entire spectrum of goods and services, are a form of prohibition.
More like licensing requirements are used to assure monopoly domination by unduly restricting access to the means of production.
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Edited by dondoodle (09/29/09 12:13 AM)
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Dr. Siekadellyk
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#11168778 - 10/02/09 07:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomerRoss said:
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The new regulation halted the sale of vanilla and chocolate cigarettes that anti-smoking advocates claim lure young people into smoking.
that sounds so dumb. not a single kid cares how it tastes or what its called, 90 percent of the people i know that smoked started because their friends smoked and for some dumb reason they think it makes them look cool if it aint green i dont smoke it
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Re: Why a Ban on Flavored Cigarettes and Outdoor Smoking Will Backfire [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
#11172800 - 10/02/09 11:24 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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flvored tobbacco ilegal!
come on realy!
i thought this was a free country and now they are making something so fucking simple as flavored tobbacco ilegal! sure, light up but don't you dare enjoy it!
come on obama, realy? i mean, realy. realy dude? realy?
fuck! mc donalds kills more people a year than tobbaco. shit alcohol kills tons of motherfuckers. but they are legal.
i wish pen gilette would run for pres. the country would be much better!
who ever would have thought we would have a black pres trying to ban menthols!
i feal fuking violated! i realy am truly disgusted by this!
i am taking this personaly! i am going to be selling black market sigs till the mother fucking cows come home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's bad enuf people get killed over dope, but now people are going to be getting knocked off for their cig stash. yeah much better than some1 having to smell your second hand!
now they are going to lose all of that tax $, and then they will have to replace it by boosting our taxes. probably on milk and baby formula!
i wish there was a sronger word than FUCKING CUNT WHORES! because this 1 doesn't quite do the trick!
any1 else see the resemblance?
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