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Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination
    #11150124 - 09/29/09 11:10 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination

Every day, people are denied opportunities because of their intelligence. They work just as hard or harder than others, are good neighbors and friends. But because they were not given the intelligence others have, they are excluded.

Think of how that would feel if it happened to you. You try your hardest, and get nothing for it, while someone else who was lucky to be born with something you don't have gets all the reward. You'd be hurt and angry.

Our society systematically denies people opportunity and reward for having lower intelligence. No matter how hard they work, or how fair and kind they are to others, they just can't get ahead. They are then trapped in a cycle of poverty, despair, drug use and self-destruction.

Throughout history people for whom intelligence is a challenge have been discriminated against, bullied, and exterminated. The Nazis under the infamous "Action T4" declared many innocent people to be retarded and killed them. We do not have the right to kill ANY person for what is not their fault.

Every day, you will hear people talking with cruelty in their voices about those they perceive to be of lower intelligence. But how do we define that? There is no intelligence gene. We do not have the right to call ANY person stupid for what is not their fault.

You can help reverse intelligence-based discrimination. The following demands are the fight against intelligence-based discrimination:

* IQ tests are scientifically inaccurate and should no longer be used. The same goes for any standardized test or procedure which claims to assess intelligence, which is something we cannot even define.

* Saying "that's stupid" or "he/she is stupid" is discrimination and will hurt others and make a society based on cruelty and inequality. Instead say "You haven't thought that all the way through."

* Rewards and awards based on intelligence discriminate against those of perceived lower intelligence. We are all equal human beings and to give some rewards for things they have not earned is injustice.

* Instead of assuming that physical risks are obvious, we need more warning labels and regulations to make sure that we do not discriminate by hiding risks from people of perceived lower intelligence.

It is cruel and unjust to discriminate. That means everyone. With the power of caring people and empathy, we have beaten back discrimination in many other forms, but one ugly secret remains: our society discriminates on the basis of intelligence. Help us end this unfairness now.

People Against Intelligence-Based Discrimination





Stand up and be a hero. Stop this unjust, cruel and unlawful form of discrimination now.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: Conservationist]
    #11150260 - 09/29/09 11:33 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

i agree except where you said "But because they were not given the intelligence others have, they are excluded." i have to disagree. i was given ZERO intelligence. nothing i'm knowledgable about was given to me...i had to either seek it out, listen intently or spend my own time studying the subject. its not the matrix where you can just download intelligence. people are always wanting the answers given to them. it doesn't work that way. if you want to be intelligent then put down the tv remote and read a book, or go experience life and learn as much as you can. knowledge is power and neither power or knowledge can be GIVEN. it has to be seeked


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: myco_mikey_mo]
    #11150673 - 09/29/09 12:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

This is stupid.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: Conservationist]
    #11151062 - 09/29/09 02:01 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah... just because dumb people will rule the world one day, that doesnt mean we cant discriminate while we have the chance


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11151110 - 09/29/09 02:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

There is a difference between lack of intelligence and stupidity.  Intelligence is the ability to learn. Stupidity is failure to apply what you have learned, leading to inefficient or undesireable outcomes. Enough said.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: Conservationist]
    #11151117 - 09/29/09 02:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

So you'd rather have an imbecile as your doctor rather than an intelligent, competent individual?




Yeah, you're stupid.



Some people, based on their intelligence, are destined for certain jobs. Others have to find another way to help society.

Some are meant to think; others are meant to do.


That's life.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: elfamale]
    #11151124 - 09/29/09 02:11 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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elfamale said:
There is a difference between lack of intelligence and stupidity.  Intelligence is the ability to learn. Stupidity is failure to apply what you have learned, leading to inefficient or undesireable outcomes. Enough said.





Some people don't have the innate potential to learn as well as others.

Not everyone is born equal. To think otherwise is ridiculous.


Go attempt to prove/disprove Einstein's Theory of Relativity and get back to us.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: meatcakeman]
    #11151135 - 09/29/09 02:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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* Instead of assuming that physical risks are obvious, we need more warning labels and regulations to make sure that we do not discriminate by hiding risks from people of perceived lower intelligence.




And more easily interpreted microwaveable dinner instructions!!!

Idiocracy ftw.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: Conservationist]
    #11151141 - 09/29/09 02:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

"Stupid" as a pejorative can evoke hurt feelings, but I have a feeling a lack of intelligence doesn't stop one from going far in this world nearly enough. Do I really need to list any examples at all?


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11151143 - 09/29/09 02:15 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
yeah... just because dumb people will rule the world one day, that doesnt mean we cant discriminate while we have the chance



QFT. 

In most cases, dumb is not a result of a genetic disadvantage, it's the consequence of a motivational void throughout nearly all former stages of life.  The brain is a muscle, use it - and it gets bigger, faster, and will retain information much better.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: meams]
    #11151676 - 09/29/09 03:36 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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meams said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
yeah... just because dumb people will rule the world one day, that doesnt mean we cant discriminate while we have the chance



QFT. 

In most cases, dumb is not a result of a genetic disadvantage, it's the consequence of a motivational void throughout nearly all former stages of life.  The brain is a muscle, use it - and it gets bigger, faster, and will retain information much better.




Nice metaphor. NOTE TO SELF: if brains got bigger, mine'd be the size of a watermelon :0. Lulz, Jay Kay


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: meams]
    #11151761 - 09/29/09 03:54 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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meams said:
The brain is a muscle, use it - and it gets bigger, faster, and will retain information much better and soon it will be able to conquer galaxies and destroy skyscrapers and manage to blame it on the governemnt while convincing people it was the damned terrorists .





brain is a muscle, lol


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination (moved) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11151771 - 09/29/09 03:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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meams said:
The brain is a muscle, use it - and it gets bigger, faster, and will retain information much better and soon it will be able to conquer galaxies and destroy skyscrapers and manage to blame it on the governemnt while convincing people it was the damned terrorists .





brain is a muscle, lol






:facepalm:


I suppose your stomach and epidermis are muscles too?


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: Conservationist]
    #11151792 - 09/29/09 03:59 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

The person who wrote this article is stupid.
If someone is not smart enough to handle a job than I will exlude from from it.


I don't think we want highschool failures doing brain sugery or building rockets.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #11151882 - 09/29/09 04:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl2:


This threads classic.



Darwinism all the way.




I think stupid people should be euthanized........


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: vandago]
    #11151932 - 09/29/09 04:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I'm pretty sure MEAMS was just speaking metaphorically..


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: Neuron]
    #11152000 - 09/29/09 04:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

bah. everyone is born a blank slate. it's what you do and learn that makes you intelligent.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: Deltron3030]
    #11152019 - 09/29/09 04:33 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Absolutely disagree with you on that.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: vandago]
    #11152310 - 09/29/09 05:26 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I think there's plenty of merit to the idea that some people genetically have more versatile (promiscuously axon-forming) neurons.


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Re: Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination [Re: BlindSophist]
    #11152348 - 09/29/09 05:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Every single person on this planet is stupid in some way or about certain types of things. Yes i said stupid, no i didn't mean ignorant.


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