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Scruffy404
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: gypsy]
#11118472 - 09/24/09 09:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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We have:
Primary Psilocibin, Sativa & Indica, MDMA, Coke, ketamine, Salvia, LSD, opium, a. Muscaria, poppers, aphrodisiacs, N. (please note: all of these are not toxic or chemically harmful in any way…)
I highly disagree MDMA? Coke? Opium? Not toxic Or harmful? Ha have you ever known an addict-It does damn evil to you body.
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gypsy
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: Scruffy404]
#11118686 - 09/24/09 10:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not if you do it in moderation
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fireshaman
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: gypsy]
#11118743 - 09/24/09 11:03 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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MDMA, Cocaine, Amanita, Poppers etc.
Are harmful in a measurable, quantitative way.
It's science!
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: fireshaman]
#11118778 - 09/24/09 11:09 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The licensing system is a good idea
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: gypsy]
#11119409 - 09/24/09 01:03 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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gypsy said: Not if you do it in moderation 
I Use to say this to "myself" a while ago a moderate spending fee was at hand but I still had a empty wallet at the end of the day . I thought my usage was moderate as well kept things pritty low mabey half to a g. a day of blow and next thing you know months down the road I start to shit blood and have quite a nice hole in the wall of my nose suprized not one in my brain yet ...I can a sure you it was not the cut if any at all.
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: gypsy]
#11119645 - 09/24/09 01:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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How about lets decriminalize all drugs?
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: Doc_T]
#11119656 - 09/24/09 01:41 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: No. "We" = the government. You and me, man. We are the government.
lol... keep dreaming man
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: gypsy]
#11121016 - 09/24/09 05:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Reason? I don't know about Australia, but the government of the US is composed of some of the most unreasonable, narrow-minded dickheaded fucking assholes to ever walk the face of the earth. By government I don't mean the people (which it is supposed to be) I mean the narrow-minded assholes we elected. WE THE PEOPLE need to elect people who do what WE want.
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Edited by starfirex (09/24/09 05:38 PM)
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: fireshaman]
#11121035 - 09/24/09 05:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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fireshaman said: MDMA, Cocaine, Amanita, Poppers etc.
Are harmful in a measurable, quantitative way.
It's science!
So fucking what? It's my body and my life.
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: starfirex]
#11121052 - 09/24/09 05:42 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Totally true!
But for those who want to still enjoy life in a decade, they should have the facts before them.
Harm reduction.
I believe people have the right to burn out like a rockstar and die at 27 - it's sort of a right in my books.
I was replying to the comment that they are not harmful.
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: fireshaman]
#11121378 - 09/24/09 06:45 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont see it happen, even for medicinal reasons.
pharmaceuticals is big business, and we all know the world revolves around money.
I doubt it would be deemed worthy just for medical use. Even if it got legilised for medical use, there would still be plenty of people growing for that purpose and that would cut into profits.
The thing that pisses me off is that alcohol is legal, yet it kills way more people than psycadelics do. Even MDMA which can be dangerous when abused has only claimed the lifes of a rediciously small number of people. and that was through stupdity.
And those deaths wernt directly related to MDMA, it was either comnbined with other drugs, over heating, or drinking a shit load of water (so it wasnt mdma, it was water poisening)
The only deaths on mushrooms i have heard of was someone jumping of a bridge. Even serioiusly high doses of LSD i havnt heard of a death caused by that.
There was an unfortunate story recently where someones friend died while tripping (my deepest respects RIP), something to do with epilipsy that cant be explained. I wouldnt be surprised if that got out it would be complelty twisted into a story blaming mushrooms.
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: veda_sticks]
#11130333 - 09/26/09 08:10 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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SO what r we going to do about all this?
Should i email our UK PM or something?
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: gypsy]
#11130626 - 09/26/09 09:38 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree, and sign here :
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: OutThisLife]
#11131862 - 09/26/09 01:19 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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OutThisLife said: How about lets decriminalize all drugs?
You must be mentally retarted or something. I suggest you seek therapy!
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Re: Petition to decriminalise all psychedelic drugs. [Re: FlyingMonk]
#11132047 - 09/26/09 01:48 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes I would sign it, BUT also be real about what is actually going on
the CLUE is their not even allowing people who are gonna die anyway to have psychedelics....?
Like errrr say what? thers something fishy agoin on here
The tightarsed way they are 'allowing' the 'serious psycho-therapists' to do 'STUDIES', meanwhile even banning the sale of magic mushrooms in Holland, and here, and elswhere
I am angry .....it is like some sick father figure who shuts you the fuck up in a dirty cellar for 40 years and lets you out. What ya say? thanks? these haven't even let us out! ...we are supposed to wait around waiting for all the ....studies to be done?
then thers the cost. How many of us here know how much psychedelic psychotherapy costs? it is freakin expensive. not many people like me could afford it
So, here's my idea, psssss
We do it ourselves!! We are already doing it. We dont WORRy about what they do. let them do what they do. What WE do is encourage people to deeply love and respect the sacred mushrooms and other psychedelics, and to educate themselves and ourselves of how to use them in sacred way and in this way we dont then depend on the 'medical model'. I am not saying there isn't a place for them of course. buit not for us to waste effort worrying about THEM, and THEIR trip. Which is mechanistic and controlling...
The same it should be for allopathic medicine where millions of people cannot afford 'healthcare'. IF we eat well, and keep as healthy as we can and support each other what need do we have of ' basement jack daddy'?
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