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 blazenn
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 Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death?  [Re: feifen]
#10897663 - 08/20/09 12:29 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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"I would feel trapped in this life if I didn't know I could commit suicide at any time." Hunter S. Thompson
words to live by
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 Moronicus
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: feifen]
#10897776 - 08/20/09 12:51 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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on acid when i feel like im dying(bad trip) i just tend to tell myself "Accept death as it comes" and then the rest of the acid trip is mellow
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Yes, it is. The shine stands for his job title, which is Shoe Shiner, the moon stands for the time he comes out to be a nigger, which is best suited for the negroid camouflage.
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: skatealex2]
#10897793 - 08/20/09 12:55 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are something. You cannot be nothing, because nothing, is something else. You can only be somewhere else, in this infinite cycle of time and space. You cannot be nowhere.
Picture a china teacup. Now let it fall. It shatters into a thousand pieces. Where is the teacup now? Its not here anymore. The shards on the floor are not the teacup, they are shards.
You could argue the teacup has died. Is the teacup erased from the universe? But no, there definitely is a place where the teacup is in this universe: it in the very least is in the moment where you dropped it but before it shattered, and all the moments before it until the potter made it. Just because we time-travellers aren't in the same moment anymore, doesn't mean the teacup vanished from the universe: it just vanished from the part of the universe you and I are into at the time. A bit before that, its still there. Very real.
If Science is convinced of one thing, is that if you can reproduce all the variables, you get the same result.
So not only is the teacup not erased from our universe in the past, theres absolutely no reason to believe that the universe who made the teacup once can't make it again. Or a million times over. Or infinitely even.
The universe itself may be in a cycle, wherein every possible thing exists and will be infinitely reproduced in every possible order of events.
What happens when you die? Theres a good chance you will be somewhere, forever and ever, be it all over the cosmos or in the infinity of the final second of your life.
The moment the teacup shatters it does not vanish: it either moves somewhere else or dwells into the infinity of time, of that final split second when its clock stops.
Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (08/20/09 01:03 PM)
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Real CA Milk
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10897837 - 08/20/09 01:02 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Only if Tibetan Buddhism is right  Ever read about the Death transition? Its supposedly a 49 day psychedelic crucible that leads to our next rebirth 
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 How many psychedelic users — in any country — actually give
time to the local church soup kitchen, helping to feed the homeless and
hungry? How many of us, having had the experience, under the influence
of the visionary drugs, of seeing all human beings as incarnations of God,
have gone down to the local hospital to give affection and a listening ear to
lonely patients who need somebody to talk to? How many of us regularly
visit a jail, to provide spiritual and emotional support to confused, damaged
people who have grown up unloved, uneducated and unguided by their
confused, damaged parents -Alexander Shulgin 
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Wiccan_Seeker
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: Real CA Milk]
#10897910 - 08/20/09 01:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Crucible indeed, as I'm going to be cremated. 
Personally I prefer my own vision of it, that the moment you actually die you instantly are transported to the foetus who's brain just came online, of your next incarnation.
My inner guide insists there won't be reincarnation, but instead something far more beautiful, and that the Universe is both the dream as the dreamer, which are you. Could it be waking up from the dream of a mortal's life, into Godhood?
If the real You dreams up this entire universe and this life.. That's going to be some waking up
Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (08/20/09 01:13 PM)
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Real CA Milk
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#10897965 - 08/20/09 01:19 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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after all the near death experiences ive read about its supposedly a pretty compassionate experience (its the least god could do with sticking us on a place like earth ). Lots of warm feelings and returning home  whatever that means
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How many psychedelic users — in any country — actually give
time to the local church soup kitchen, helping to feed the homeless and
hungry? How many of us, having had the experience, under the influence
of the visionary drugs, of seeing all human beings as incarnations of God,
have gone down to the local hospital to give affection and a listening ear to
lonely patients who need somebody to talk to? How many of us regularly
visit a jail, to provide spiritual and emotional support to confused, damaged
people who have grown up unloved, uneducated and unguided by their
confused, damaged parents -Alexander Shulgin
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: Real CA Milk]
#10897984 - 08/20/09 01:21 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Do you think psychedelics and marijuana can help the transition to death? [Re: Real CA Milk]
#10898148 - 08/20/09 01:44 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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after all the near death experiences ive read about its supposedly a pretty compassionate experience (its the least god could do with sticking us on a place like earth ). Lots of warm feelings and returning home whatever that means
Look deeper, you will find numerous near death experiences of people who died and went to Hell, demons tearing at their soul, and they being recucitated and coming back traumatized and scared shitless of dying.
I read that 1 in 5 with NDE return with tales from Hell, not Heaven.
And what is the point of death? Most definitions go with the moment the heart stops. Thats just silly, as if that pump decides the moment of death. Put a rotary pump in the circulation and you can shut the heart off for a long time.
Brain death? Just cause theres no electric signals doesnt mean that the brain and everything in it ceased to exist. If there is no brain activity whatsoever, the structure still exists. If thats all you have, it can still be a level of consciousness (*thinks of people frozen cryogenically*)
Whatever death is, it may only be completed upon destruction of the structure, and only then you are truly dead.
And that may well take those 49 days, or shorter if you like me get cremated.
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