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Knobby Tops
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Satori23]
#10853859 - 08/13/09 03:00 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Satori23 said:
Local police station dogs are not typically trained for such items, but there are DEA dogs that can indicate mushrooms, usually they are used in customs or in airport security.
Don't make a claim that dogs can't sniff that without having proper information. Some people take whats said here to heart & false information regarding subjects like this is just dangerous.
I have to agree... people read stuff and if it is what they want to hear, they are so much more likely to remember... especially false / dangerous information.
As for a Dog's sniffing ability... it is my understanding that some breeds of dog can be trained to detect ANY scent...ANYTHING!
Just look at the different types of trained dogs that are available...
there are dogs trained to detect everything from peanuts for people with peanut allergies... to dogs that can detect when your blood sugar is dangerously low for diabetics...
So a shroom sniffing dog makes perfect sense... and I agree with satori23... local police / small town police are probably less likely to possess a dog like this; whereas the DEA and customs agents most certainly do.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Green_T]
#10854646 - 08/13/09 04:58 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Another lesson not to do dumb shit in the car while driving.
Stick to the limit, make sure all your lights work, make sure the vehicle is registered and be co-operative (to an extent) and polite to cops.
i think some of us forget that shrooms are still illegal and treat them like popcorn in their car.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Satori23]
#10854935 - 08/13/09 05:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Most dogs when they smell weed, shrooms, alcohol, etc. they back up I think police train the dogs to actually pick up on those smells and react by pointing it out and trying to disengage the object.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: BoomerMan420]
#10855072 - 08/13/09 06:03 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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that's a lot of silly time turned into a lot of shitty time (incarceration for a victimless crime)
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Satori23]
#10857276 - 08/14/09 12:08 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah k9 is bullshit lol doubt that . i also agree though on price that's a way underestimate
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Knobby Tops]
#10857830 - 08/14/09 04:03 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Knobby Tops said:
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Satori23 said:
Local police station dogs are not typically trained for such items, but there are DEA dogs that can indicate mushrooms, usually they are used in customs or in airport security.
Don't make a claim that dogs can't sniff that without having proper information. Some people take whats said here to heart & false information regarding subjects like this is just dangerous.
I have to agree... people read stuff and if it is what they want to hear, they are so much more likely to remember... especially false / dangerous information.
As for a Dog's sniffing ability... it is my understanding that some breeds of dog can be trained to detect ANY scent...ANYTHING!
Just look at the different types of trained dogs that are available...
there are dogs trained to detect everything from peanuts for people with peanut allergies... to dogs that can detect when your blood sugar is dangerously low for diabetics...
So a shroom sniffing dog makes perfect sense... and I agree with satori23... local police / small town police are probably less likely to possess a dog like this; whereas the DEA and customs agents most certainly do.
Again I disagree a shroom sniffing dog does not make perfect sense.
They do not want to run into situations like this
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But some drug dogs are just too good to be believed. In one case reported by the Tampa Tribune, a now-retired drug dog named Talon "alerted" on every single vehicle he sniffed during a four-month period -- even though drugs were found in less than half of them.
Such results call into question the dog's reliability and can result in a successful motion to suppress the evidence in drug cases, usually leading to the dismissal of charges. That's what happened in a recent Manatee County case. Circuit Judge Johnes Riva said in a ruling the dog's record of false "hits" gave her no choice but to throw out the evidence in a drug case.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/553/florida_attorneys_drug_dog_hit
I also found this which is just some interesting and very valuable info for people here that may need to challenge a dog sniff search http://www.dallascriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2008/11/drug_dog_expert_steven_nicely_1.html
I am definitely not arguing against the fact that dogs can be and are trained to smell mushrooms (truffles in France though are the ones I refer to when I say they ARE trained to smell mushrooms).
I believe in every case where a dog has smelled mushrooms that there has been something else involved.
It could be as simple as people smoking pot while cleaning/drying, packaging the mushrooms and the particles from the pot adhere to the mushrooms or the bags, and then the dog smells this...
Either way it is my belief that a dog trained to smell mushrooms would be too much of a liability in relation to false positive hits - making any hit the dog did make subject to scrutiny.
Anyway always good to have a healthy debate
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Satori23]
#10866931 - 08/15/09 07:46 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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damn that sucks for wyoming thats gotta be the lamest state haha that was probally the best thing that states seen in years hahahhahhaa
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10867921 - 08/15/09 11:06 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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what alan said.
biggest surprise here is getting pulled over going only 74 in a 65. that's highway speed on many interstates.
it's highly unlikely the dog was trained for shrooms. it's more probable that the shrooms or something else in trunk smelled like ganja.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: moeshroom]
#10869448 - 08/16/09 09:06 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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an eastbound vehicle traveling at 84 mph in a 75 mph zone
It was a 75 mph zone... if you can't drive below 75, you really should reconsider moving weight.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#10869513 - 08/16/09 09:22 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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His connecttion in Chicago should give me a call. I am much closer and can drive 55.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#10869865 - 08/16/09 10:38 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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RoosterCogburn said:
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an eastbound vehicle traveling at 84 mph in a 75 mph zone
It was a 75 mph zone... if you can't drive below 75, you really should reconsider moving weight.

agreed.
however, 85 is highway speed for sure in a 75 so that guy got extremely unlucky.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: moeshroom]
#10870487 - 08/16/09 12:51 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are wrong. I am from Wyoming, and I am friends with a couple of troopers. You'd better keep it at 80 or below. And if you're moving weight, why speed AT ALL?
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: whattheheck]
#10870872 - 08/16/09 01:50 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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that's good to know about wyoming. you are saying that the pack on a wyoming interstate moves at 80mph or less? or the pack cruises at 85 but the cops still bother people when they get a chance?
my understanding is the reason for the "10 mph rule" as it is unwritten in pennsylvania is that it's expensive to calibrate radar guns daily and it's also expensive for the cops and their lawyers to make narrow cases in court.
my experience driving cross-country is the pack moves about 10 mph above. this may have been the unfortunate fellow's experience as well.
i didn't notice variations in this from one state to the next.
edit: nevermind. it turns out pennsylvania is unusually chill on the speed limits. i'm the lucky one i guess.
http://criminal.lawyers.com/traffic-violations/Absolute-vs.-Presumed-Speed-Limits.html
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: moeshroom]
#10870885 - 08/16/09 01:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, as a general rule, anything over 5 MPH over is going to put you in the kill zone. Granted, back east where population concentration is MUCH higher, you're less likely to get hit, but why speed when you're looking at YEARS in prison if you get stopped?
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: whattheheck]
#10870979 - 08/16/09 02:07 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: but why speed when you're looking at YEARS in prison if you get stopped?
i agreed with that point a couple posts ago
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: moeshroom]
#10871078 - 08/16/09 02:36 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good 
A lot of people are in prison for just being plain ol' dumb.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Satori23]
#10872624 - 08/16/09 07:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Police working dogs can distinguish between and remember hundreds of different scents. Not only are they trained to sniff shrooms but can also detect explosives, guns, and prescription meds.
It takes no special effort, money or training, to throw a bag of shrooms into the pile of things the dog is being trained to search for.
Dogs noses a so much more advanced than human noses nothing will cover the scent of anything. No coffee grounds or Vaseline will fool a well trained police dog.
I learned this on the discovery channel.
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Re: Traffic stop yields over four pounds of psilocybin mushrooms [WY] [Re: Satori23]
#10875289 - 08/17/09 10:14 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love how they always use the term "yields" looks at the sim. threads below.
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