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 First time with 2c-e 
#10832640 - 08/10/09 10:47 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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After tripping on mushrooms a few times over the past year or so, I decided to give 2c-e a try. I've read many reports and felt that I had a good idea of what to expect. However, since I had only tried mushrooms thus far, I was still curious to see how the differences presented themselves.
Prep & Ingestion: Based on the reports I read, I was worried about nausea. For breakfast I had an espresso and only one bite of a croissant, hoping that it would reduce stomach issues. At 11:30 AM I ate a capsule that I made with 14mg of 2c-e. If figured that this would be a good starting dose. Turns out that I would have wanted more (see below). I'd appreciate suggestions for the next dose.
The comeup started at around 12:30 (1hr after ingestion) and seemed to continue *slowly* for another hour. In general the whole trip felt very "slow and steady"; it felt as though I was inching up to the peak and then later inching down to sobriety. I was surprised at how consistent the experience felt. By comparison, mushrooms felt as if I was being slammed in the head with a sledgehammer of trippiness.  I didn't feel any of the "waves" that I was used to with mushrooms. Instead, the effect seemed subtler, but more consistent. In general the trip felt extremely manageable.
There was a bit of nauseous discomfort for about the first 2 hours. It was really not that bad at all, except that it took a long time to go away which started to get annoying. I was not even close to puking and I wonder if I could have eaten breakfast or if that would have made the nausea much worse... In terms of other negatives of the trip: I have some chronic shoulder issues, and my shoulders were hurting badly at some points during the trip. I've read others talk of muscle issues with 2c-e so I guess I'm not alone. Finally, the auditory distortions on the trip were unremarkable this time at least; certain sounds seemed to drown into the background and sound like static.
In general the trip was very good, with no negative aspects that stood out, but it did feel as though it lacked a characteristic that was pervasive in the mushroom trips. I'm still trying to put my finger on it but will explain some of my experience here. First of all, the visual hallucinations were very similar to the mushroom visuals. Everything was rounded, colours were more intense, shadows and other colour gradients were deep and detailed. One visual that I don't think I spotted on mushrooms were the patterns that I saw in several things in different contexts. (During the trip I came up with what I called the "kaleidoscopic recursive pattern of life theory," which was what 2c-e spoke to me about not just visually but in terms of how I was thinking as well). As with all aspects of the trip, I wanted more of the visuals and wish I had taken a higher dose.
When I first approached the peak of the trip, I was beginning to think that there wouldn't be any spectacular insights with 2c-e; it felt very neutral in its influence. When I thought that I was at the peak (around 3:30 PM) I decided that I would smoke some pot to hopefully launch me to another level, and that I did. Before I knew it (really; I caught myself off guard) I was thinking deeply about a personal issue that I know I need to tackle. This issue became the theme of the entire trip from that point on. It seemed that every situation I encountered throughout the rest of the day was a life lesson on the topic at hand. In general the trip made me want to attack my personal weaknesses with gusto, rather than try to avoid them. It was great.
There was definitely a "feel" to 2c-e that was distinct from mushrooms; I noticed a consistent vibe that was different from my mushroom experiences. On mushrooms I tended to feel connected with every person that I saw, while on 2c-e I was continuously reminded of the reality of disconnect. Then again, this relates directly to the personal issue that I'm alluding to above, so it could have been me and perhaps had nothing to do with 2c-e. In any case, it wasn't a negative feeling; it was powerfully liberating to feel good about myself and my path in life, even if those around me might not be of like mind at any particular moment.
The entire trip lasted about 7 hours, with what felt like a 2 or 3 hour peak in the middle; all of it with my girl (who was just smoking weed for this run). Most of the trip was spent outdoors walking through some local community streets, as well as sitting in a beautiful park (witness to the beautify of nature, people, animals, and the like). The rest of the trip was spent back at our house, with about an hour of the comedown spent with my eyes closed exploring the inner head space.
All in all, it was a great trip, though I was left wanting more. My mushroom trips have all been 2 dry grams of cubes. From what I had read, I had actually expected that 14mg of 2c-e might be the equivalent in terms of potency. Was my assumption wrong or is my 2c-e less potent than typical? Any suggestions for a good dose for me?
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 Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: Listening]
#10832978 - 08/10/09 12:01 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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i enjoy 2c-e trips anywhere from 20-30mg, though I've had many 2c-e trips and know what i'm in for. i'd go for 20mg if you're looking to really get a feel for the magic... something i've learned with psychedelics: i've never felt I over did it afterward, only during the trip.
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Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: Mr Cyan]
#12124259 - 03/01/10 09:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr Cyan said:
i enjoy 2c-e trips anywhere from 20-30mg, though I've had many 2c-e trips and know what i'm in for. i'd go for 20mg if you're looking to really get a feel for the magic... something i've learned with psychedelics: i've never felt I over did it afterward, only during the trip.
i agree it is only durring the trip you feel you did to much. i took 35 mg and the stomach pains in the beginning sucked but after it was well worth it.
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stereolab
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Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: puddles]
#12130125 - 03/02/10 06:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good report, keep us informed if you decided to go for a higher dose.
I'm getting 500 mg of 2C-E soon, looking forward to it! I think I'll start with around 14-16 mg.
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malevolence
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Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: stereolab]
#14991987 - 08/28/11 02:21 PM (8 months, 24 days ago) |
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I did ~15mg my first time and I was honestly somewhat disappointed. But I've been reading about that alot. People that took it a few months back think it is amazing but the more recent reports I've read are disappointment (overall). Bad batches or something?
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I know what you mean about 2c-e lacking something that fungus offers. I feel like it just doesn't mindfuck you so bad.
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malevolence
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Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: breeg89]
#15005775 - 08/31/11 08:44 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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breeg89 said:
I know what you mean about 2c-e lacking something that fungus offers. I feel like it just doesn't mindfuck you so bad.
I love the mindfuck. I like KNOWING I'm fucked up without having to actively think I am.
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malevolence said:
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breeg89 said:
I know what you mean about 2c-e lacking something that fungus offers. I feel like it just doesn't mindfuck you so bad.
I love the mindfuck. I like KNOWING I'm fucked up without having to actively think I am.
Oh, I'm the same way. I prefer fungus to 2c-e.
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malevolence
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Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: breeg89]
#15016682 - 09/02/11 08:38 AM (8 months, 19 days ago) |
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Either that or chillin with Lucy. Both are so good.
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malevolence said:
Either that or chillin with Lucy. Both are so good.
Still haven't been fortunate enough to hang with a high dose of lucy, sadly.
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i like cow poo
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Re: First time with 2c-e [Re: Listening]
#15024341 - 09/03/11 05:31 PM (8 months, 18 days ago) |
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Next time I would take 16mg, apparently the dose response curve is exponential. 20 mg is twice as potent as 18 mg supposidly so be warned
Your trip report was very relaxing, walking around and enjoying the outdoors is something I like to do as well
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malevolence
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Quote:
breeg89 said:
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malevolence said:
Either that or chillin with Lucy. Both are so good.
Still haven't been fortunate enough to hang with a high dose of lucy, sadly.
That is unfortunate 
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i like cow poo said:
Next time I would take 16mg, apparently the dose response curve is exponential. 20 mg is twice as potent as 18 mg supposidly so be warned
Your trip report was very relaxing, walking around and enjoying the outdoors is something I like to do as well
My first time with 2C-E I took 15mg. Since I only have them separated by sets of 15mg (and have no scale) I'm going to separate one in "half" and take one and a half sets. So around 20-22mg?
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