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    #10823746 - 08/08/09 06:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know if this is the right place for this question, but the hubby and I are thinking about growing some cacti. We've grown weed, shrooms, and tried poppy (didn't work very well). We love cacti and have heard that some are "magic". Any suggestions on any magic cacti, or some that are just really fun to grow?

I have heard some take years to grow. I think that is so awesome.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Cacti [Re: feelingfunny]
    #10823755 - 08/08/09 06:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just take a look around at the ones we are growing.

We have a great mix of magic and non as most of us love growing cacti too :grin:


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Re: Cacti [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10823771 - 08/08/09 06:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

MY favorite thing about growing cacti is that they live for years and years.


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Re: Cacti [Re: cpw1971]
    #10823791 - 08/08/09 06:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is definitely a good thing.

As pretty as most annual plants are, I just find it disappointing that they die so quickly :sad:


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Re: Cacti [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10823808 - 08/08/09 06:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That's what I'm looking forward to, being able to tend something for all that time. The shrooms are great, but their life cycle is so short. I have a veggie garden as well, and that's a little better, since it lasts for several months.

But I want something more, you know?

So I should just go through this forum to find some good varieties? And how to go about getting those varieties?


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Re: Cacti [Re: feelingfunny]
    #10823836 - 08/08/09 07:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'll give a list of commonly collected cacti, although there are SO many different kinds it all boils down to personal taste.

Ariocarpus
Astrophytum
Echinocactus
Trichocereus (Echinopsis) :sanpedro:
Mammillaria
Gymnocalycium
Lophophora :peyotespectrum:
Opuntia
Myrtillocactus
Pilosocereus
Stetsonia

Those are the most common ones I see.

I'm going to assume you are in the states and say you can find many (but certainly not all) of these at your local big box hardware stores and local nurseries (check your local listings to see if there are any that specialize in cacti).

You can also find them online at ethnobotanical vendors such as Bouncing Bear Botanicals (which is a shroomery sponsor, not highly recommended for accuracy however), auction sites, or just do a simple google search.


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Re: Cacti [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10823845 - 08/08/09 07:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I got a trichocereus bridgesii from BBB and it was good enough. I'd recommend you get a bridgesii, as they are usually the most consistent ones in term of alkaloids, and grow pretty fast and look nice (They're my favorite so far for ornamentals).


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Re: Cacti [Re: Jade]
    #10823854 - 08/08/09 07:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Is there some special way to know if a cacti is "magic". I don't particularily need one that is but that would be cool too.

I am looking for something beautiful and fun to take care of. Does that make sense?


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Re: Cacti [Re: Jade]
    #10823862 - 08/08/09 07:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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HellDragon said:
I got a trichocereus bridgesii from BBB and it was good enough. I'd recommend you get a bridgesii, as they are usually the most consistent ones in term of alkaloids, and grow pretty fast and look nice (They're my favorite so far for ornamentals).



:thumbup: bridgesii and pedro are the two most common starter cacti.
trichocereus bridgesii and trichocereus pachanoi.
They're easy to identify and common, so you wont get misled by the dozens of sites that mislabel their plants to make more money.


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Re: Cacti [Re: feelingfunny]
    #10823868 - 08/08/09 07:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

San Pedro (Trichocereus pachanoi) seems to be the most commonly grown as far as "magic" cacti goes. The "magic" trichocereus grow fast enough to be adequate sources of mescaline, and people can pretty reasonably become self-sufficient with a small collection of them.

Peyote (Lophophora species) is the "traditional" mescaline-producing-cacti but they grow painfully slow, and you'd be a fool to grind up a large enough quantity for consumption.  Doing so will probably get you flamed on this forum as well.


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Re: Cacti [Re: Horticulture]
    #10823885 - 08/08/09 07:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

May I ask why the Peyote (Lophophora species) has been black-balled compaired to the other cacti?

I have other magic things to enjoy and mescaline doesn't really interest me all that much. I just thought it would be cool to grow one among the other cacti I will be growing. Just to say I did, you know.


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Re: Cacti [Re: feelingfunny]
    #10823888 - 08/08/09 07:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

feelingfunny said:
Is there some special way to know if a cacti is "magic". I don't particularily need one that is but that would be cool too.

I am looking for something beautiful and fun to take care of. Does that make sense?



There are a LOT of 'magic' cacti.(cacti that contain mescaline)
However most have very small doses that won't be enough to give you any effects. The most common ones purchased for consumption are probably pedro and bridgesii. Dosage is always relative, but ~30g of dried prepared tissue is the norm when dealing with these two.


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Re: Cacti [Re: feelingfunny]
    #10823890 - 08/08/09 07:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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feelingfunny said:
May I ask why the Peyote (Lophophora species) has been black-balled compaired to the other cacti?

I have other magic things to enjoy and mescaline doesn't really interest me all that much. I just thought it would be cool to grow one among the other cacti I will be growing. Just to say I did, you know.



it's endangered and takes much longer to grow.


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Re: Cacti [Re: lolbience]
    #10823894 - 08/08/09 07:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh, I see.

Yeah I highly doubt I would actually use any as a "magic" cacti, I'd just like to be able to say I grew one.

Thanks so much for all your help!!!


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Re: Cacti [Re: feelingfunny]
    #10990714 - 09/03/09 05:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

hay feelingfunny if your still interested in those cacti i have a hole lot of san pedro coming to me. a friend has a shit load in his yard and is gonna let me fill the back of my truck up as soon as i get my truck fixed, probably like a week or two if you still want one ill send you a cutting. you get to do the grow from rooting the cutting to cutting and rooting another if you chose to do so and if you need help ill be here till i die.i love the shroomery. let me in,let me in,let me in,you know the family,the family hahaha let me know if you want one


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Re: Cacti [Re: whyblameus]
    #10991117 - 09/03/09 08:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm guessing Cereus before anyone posts an ID request.


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Re: Cacti [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #10991429 - 09/03/09 10:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm guessing Cereus before anyone posts an ID request.



Seconded.

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Re: Cacti [Re: whyblameus]
    #10991444 - 09/03/09 11:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

keep your trade talk in PM's and the marketplace please, as per the forum rules.


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Re: Cacti [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #10992124 - 09/03/09 01:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Feelingfunny,

I suggest you start with the following:

-trichocereus bridgesii. It's very consistent with mescaline and my favorite of the 'magic' cacti)
-trichocereus pachanoi. San pedro, very easy to take care of. I don't do anything with mine and they grow fine.
-trichocereus peruvianus. My favorite one to trip off of so far, this ones just a little tough as there's many fakes floating around.


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Re: Cacti [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #11053651 - 09/13/09 09:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Dr. uarewotueat said:
keep your trade talk in PM's and the marketplace please, as per the forum rules.


sorry about that. ill remember from know on.


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