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 RoosterCogburn
Fearless,one-eyed U.S.Marshall
 
Registered: 08/25/06
Posts: 8,508
Loc: Dirty South, NJ
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 Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: Bimmin]
#10803405 - 08/05/09 04:13 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bimmin said:
Science doesn't prove anything. Only theories exist in science.
So, they are Newton's theories of motion? or LAWS of motion?
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mellowparty
oligofluoronucleotide
Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 14,486
Loc: ∫exdx 
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: Yrat]
#10803441 - 08/05/09 04:39 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think if it wasnt for the weed she would have crashed way earlier than she actually did.
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RoosterCogburn
Fearless,one-eyed U.S.Marshall
Registered: 08/25/06
Posts: 8,508
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: mellowparty]
#10803446 - 08/05/09 04:41 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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mellowparty said:
I think if it wasnt for the weed she would have crashed way earlier than she actually did.
The article says she was high, but is that really possible to determine? I always thought it was impossible to measure exactly how high someone is... unlike a BAC test for booze...
She probably smoked weed now and then, and tested positive based on that... they found an absolut bottle, but no joints. 
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mellowparty
oligofluoronucleotide
Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 14,486
Loc: ∫exdx
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#10803456 - 08/05/09 04:45 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Still, weed kinda makes u drive more carefully (at least this is how it works with my friend). But yea no way to determine whether she was really high.
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Ganjika
The Hippie
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Posts: 202
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: Holydiver]
#10803629 - 08/05/09 05:57 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Holydiver said:
I blame the pot. they need to roadside drug test you hippies so this doesn't happen again 
Not sure if you've seen this -
i just read this on shroomery yesterday :
http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/23111/
(Phillips Unveils It's Roadside Dope Test)
[The system uses magnetic nanoparticles to detect traces of cocaine, heroin, cannabis, and methamphetamine. - It Only Takes 90 Seconds.]
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 "Marijuana is Only Addictive In The Sense That All Good Things In Life Are Worth Repeating..."
Edited by Ganjika (08/05/09 05:33 PM)
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Lennyk
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Registered: 04/22/08
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: mellowparty]
#10803742 - 08/05/09 06:45 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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mellowparty said:
Still, weed kinda makes u drive more carefully (at least this is how it works with my friend). But yea no way to determine whether she was really high.
I am only stating the results of driving/pilot simulations under the effects of alcohol, weed, or both. Weed is the least problematic on its own, alcohol is next, but combined they found it the worst for reaction time and general motor skills.
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bigkingjc
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Registered: 08/29/06
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: Lennyk]
#10804012 - 08/05/09 08:17 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just because something is a law doesnt give it any meaning.
Law = set of rules + the power/means to enforce them.
ex. marijuana tax stamp act?!
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motaman
old hand
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Driver in deadly Taconic crash Diane Schuler was drunk, had marijuana in system [Re: TrancedShroom]
#10804247 - 08/05/09 09:14 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Driver in deadly Taconic crash Diane Schuler was drunk, had marijuana in system
BY Alison Gendar, Ben Chapman and Samuel Goldsmith
DAILY NEWS WRITERS
Updated Wednesday, August 5th 2009, 6:19 AM
The scene of the deadly accident on the Taconic State Parkway. Sabo/News
The scene of the deadly accident on the Taconic State Parkway.
JR/News
It's enough to make you sick.
Cops Tuesday painted a mind-boggling picture of death driver Diane Schuler — guzzling vodka and smoking pot with helpless kids in tow before the horrific Taconic State Parkway crash.
The 36-year-old mom drank so much she could barely see. She still had alcohol in her stomach when she crashed, killing herself, her daughter, three nieces and three men in an SUV she hit, police said.
Toxicology tests did not show what she drank, but a jumbo 1.75-liter bottle of Absolut vodka was found in the wreckage of her Ford Windstar minivan.
She consumed at least 10 ounces of liquor during the reckless 90-mile drive from a campground in Sullivan County to Briarcliff Manor in Westchester County, police said.
She smoked pot within an hour of driving the wrong way on the Taconic heading home to Long Island, police said.
The revelations brought outrage from the family of the men killed in the SUV — but silence from Schuler’s relatives.
"I’m stunned that anybody would do that with kids in the car," said Robert Guzzo, whose brother-in-law and father-in-law were killed. "I'm very angry. This was not an accident ; it was a murder."
The July26 crash was ruled a homicide and referred to the Westchester County district attorney, but police don't expect charges.
The toxicology tests came as a shock after police initially said it didn't appear Schuler was drunk. Results came in Friday. Cops waited until the burials of the victims to release the results of the tests.
Killed in the Windstar were Schuler's 2-year-old daughter, Erin, and Schuler's nieces Emma Hance, 9, Alison Hance, 7, and Kate Hance, 5. Five-year-old Brian Schuler was the lone survivor.
Three Yonkers men in the SUV died — Guy Bastardi, 49, his father, Michael Bastardi, 81, and family friend Daniel Longo, 74.
"We got very devastating news today," Michael Bastardi Jr. said .
Schuler's blood-alcohol level was 0.19% — more than twice the legal limit, cops said. She had 6 grams of undigested alcohol in her stomach when she died.
"She would have had difficulty with her perception, with her judgment and her memory," said Betsy Spratt, the Westchester County toxicology examiner.
"Around that level of alcohol you start to get tunnel vision where you can't see peripherally all the time." Marijuana intensifies the effects.
Police could not say if Schuler got wasted while driving or stopped along the way. It was unclear if she was drinking before she got behind the wheel to drive the children home from camping.
Her husband, Daniel Schuler, told cops that his wife was fine when they left about 9:30 a.m. He drove one car straight home to West Babylon, L.I., while she took the kids to McDonald's.
Ann Scott, 77, who owns the campsite the family visited for three years, saw Schuler off.
"I got pretty close to her and waved goodbye,”" she said. "If she had alcohol in her breath, I would have smelled it."
Schuler drove erratically along much of the route. About 1 p.m., she called brother Warren Hance and said she was sick. At 1:30 p.m., Schuler entered the northbound Taconic via an exit ramp. She drove 1.7 miles the wrong way before plowing into the Bastardis.
“I don't even want to think about if the brother knew what she was doing and let those kids get in the car,” Guzzo said.
How much Schuler's loved ones knew is a mystery.
"At this point we're getting limited information from the family," said Maj. William Carey of the state police.
The family was notified of the test results Friday, police said. The day before, Schuler and the four girls were laid to rest.
At the funeral, Hance lovingly remembered his three daughters and paid tribute to Schuler's "miracle" boy, Brian. He didn't say a word about his sister.
With Edgar Sandoval, John Lauinger, Henrick Karoliszyn and Tanyanika Samuels
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/08/04/2009-08-04_diane_schuler_mom_who_drove_van_wrong_way_on_the_taconic_killing_8_was_drunk_on_.html
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JMR
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Registered: 03/12/08
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Re: Driver in deadly Taconic crash Diane Schuler was drunk, had marijuana in system [Re: motaman]
#10804718 - 08/05/09 10:54 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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There were three grown men in the car that could have stopped her for 90 fucking miles...maybe they were all in on in it....maybe they all wanted to die cept for the kids.....
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skin_
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Registered: 03/08/08
Posts: 2,552
Loc: Texas
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Re: Driver in deadly Taconic crash Diane Schuler was drunk, had marijuana in system [Re: JMR]
#10804888 - 08/05/09 11:27 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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The three grown men were in the SUV the bitch crashed into. This makes me angry, I can't believe people do shit like this. Just kill yourself there's no need for innocents to be hurt.
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 LivioDoubleFang
Outlaw of the Midwest
Registered: 06/28/09
Posts: 664
Loc: Locked Inside My Head
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: Yrat]
#10805056 - 08/05/09 11:55 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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What a junkie!
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eBook thread
"As flies to wanton boys are we to the Gods. The kill us for their sport." -King Lear; Shakespeare.
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" -Gandhi
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Dr. Siekadellyk
Weed is good.
Registered: 11/19/08
Posts: 2,292
Loc: Floating amidst nothing 
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Re: Mom, intoxicated on Vodka and Pot kills seven. [Re: TrancedShroom]
#10805163 - 08/05/09 12:07 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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