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 LeftyBurnz
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 A little gun control history  1
#10197952 - 04/19/09 10:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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got this in an email today, sounds a bit outdated, maybe some people can help to update these figures and add to this? i would like to compile a nice sized list of gun control facts that i can print out and just let someone read instead of trying to argue off of memory.
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, ++were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were +unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves,were rounded up and exterminated
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and terminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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It has now been sometime now, since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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lexmark
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#10267601 - 05/01/09 10:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maya established gun control from 250–900 AD, 1.4 million mayans, unable to denfend themselves, were rounded up and slaughtered....
those numbers seem a bit vague to me
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: lexmark]
#10269163 - 05/01/09 04:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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what the fuck are you talking about?
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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lexmark
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#10272766 - 05/02/09 12:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Chakravanti
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#10527207 - 06/18/09 12:07 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I think he's talking about the Spanish Inquisition which slaughtered Aztecs not Mayans.
Which would explain why he's sketchy on historical data. 
Very good thread & point, my neighbour in arms!
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Your Destination
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: Chakravanti]
#10546722 - 06/21/09 11:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely some points in there I will be using next gun control debate that rolls around.
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ChuangTzu
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Those numbers are in fact vague, dubious, and ridiculous.
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: ChuangTzu]
#10599288 - 06/30/09 08:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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im not going to say youre wrong, but i am going to ask you to provide some real numbers if these are in fact Quote:
vague, dubious, and ridiculous
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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Heisenberg
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Re: A little gun control history [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#10731784 - 07/24/09 10:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If that shit hits the fan in the USA, there's gonna be alot of blood. We Americans will never surrender our weapons.
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