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 deCypher
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 Good books on white magick? 
#10650883 - 07/10/09 02:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any recommendations? I'm looking for anything related to invoking and evoking benevolent entities, healing, and self-empowerment through compassion.
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 Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10650957 - 07/10/09 02:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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id love to hear how that gos...
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10650974 - 07/10/09 02:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd recommend checking out some books on Reiki... I can't think of any off the top of my head though.... It's pretty amazing what you can do for yourself with it.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10651095 - 07/10/09 03:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any recommendations? I'm looking for anything related to invoking and evoking benevolent entities, healing, and self-empowerment through compassion.
Maybe check out some Starhawk (Wicca)... or "Zhuan Falun" by Li Hongzhi.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: sterbeklang]
#10651115 - 07/10/09 03:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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why do you want to learn about white magic?
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651146 - 07/10/09 03:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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why do you want to learn about white magic?
Curiosity primarily. I have read many books on gray and black magick and currently feel the need for a change of pace. Also lately Compassion has proven impossible to ignore in my magickal workings; I suppose what I am ultimately aiming for is a synthesis of Power and Love.
The problem with the few books that I've read that have veered more on the benevolent side of things seems to be an incessant wish for either submission to some Higher Power or toeing the line to some hard-edged, absolute moral code. I believe in no gods or goddesses or any beings that require my service or unconditional adherence to some Law; to wax D&D here for a minute, are there any chaotic good magickal practices as opposed to lawful good?
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10651192 - 07/10/09 03:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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why do you want to learn about white magic?
Curiosity primarily. I have read many books on gray and black magick and currently feel the need for a change of pace. Also lately Compassion has proven impossible to ignore in my magickal workings; I suppose what I am ultimately aiming for is a synthesis of Power and Love.
The problem with the few books that I've read that have veered more on the benevolent side of things seems to be an incessant wish for either submission to some Higher Power or toeing the line to some hard-edged, absolute moral code. I believe in no gods or goddesses or any beings that require my service or unconditional adherence to some Law; to wax D&D here for a minute, are there any chaotic good magickal practices as opposed to lawful good?
Power doesnt bring happiness and I doubt that if yu do somehow synthesize love that it wont fulfill wat yer looking for since it would be fake
I feel if yu ever synthesize power that yull end up just wanting more or become 'drunk on your own poser' as psilokitten said...
I am not a believer in any religions like yu and that is mainly because they have strict followings. I still feel the need to read religious texts however because every religion has morals that are good to abide by and I also feel it helps me understand other peoples views on the world.
whatevre happens in the end for yu, whether it be that yu succeed in synthesizing love and power, i hope it makes yu happy man
right now, what are yu ultimately looking for in life?
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651207 - 07/10/09 04:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Too much power certainly corrupts, but love without power is ineffectual and meaningless. The balance is certainly tricky but I feel my own happiness rides on that ever-shifting line.
As far as life goes... knowledge, wisdom, power, happiness, and immortality are certainly high up on my list of priorities.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651212 - 07/10/09 04:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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'drunk on your own poser'
Golden Freudian slip.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: sterbeklang]
#10651217 - 07/10/09 04:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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'drunk on your own poser'
Golden Freudian slip.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10651236 - 07/10/09 04:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Too much power certainly corrupts, but love without power is ineffectual and meaningless. The balance is certainly tricky but I feel my own happiness rides on that ever-shifting line.
As far as life goes... knowledge, wisdom, power, happiness, and immortality are certainly high up on my list of priorities.
love and power can both be achieved without the use of 'magic'
with knowledge comes wisdom and those can only be a achieved through trial and error. i do not believe that you can do a spell to gain them. i find many people in power to be unhappy because too much stress is put on them. as for having immortality, i find that that would suck balls... if yu were immortal you would still have feelings so if yu were to become beheaded and buried, yu would experience the pain of being eaten by worms, fungi and parasites which would be horrible.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651242 - 07/10/09 04:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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'drunk on your own poser'
Golden Freudian slip.
You typed it. Not me.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: sterbeklang]
#10651249 - 07/10/09 04:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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'drunk on your own poser'
Golden Freudian slip.
You typed it. Not me.
what the fuck is a golden freudian
this is why i try and stay away from this forum...
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: sterbeklang]
#10651257 - 07/10/09 04:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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love and power can both be achieved without the use of 'magic'
Love can be found through simple meditation and compassion. Power I find magic helps with; besides I enjoy that synchronistic trance state that comes with working with the metaphysical. It makes life far more interesting IMO.
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with knowledge comes wisdom and those can only be a achieved through trial and error. i do not believe that you can do a spell to gain them.
Not necessarily. Some entities may be conjured to convey knowledge; I am not sure whether any exist to convey wisdom but I'm sure a chaos magick working would suffice. Personal life experience is probably the best tack, though.
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i find many people in power to be unhappy because too much stress is put on them. as for having immortality, i find that that would suck balls... if yu were immortal you would still have feelings so if yu were to become beheaded and buried, yu would experience the pain of being eaten by worms, fungi and parasites which would be horrible.
Preferably I'd have all the power and none of the responsibility.  Many people supposedly in power are also just yet another pawn in the chain of a dog-eat-dog hierarchy; fuck that. I'm blazing my own path and be damned with the rest of them. Also I would only choose immortality if it were a happy eternity of life.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651267 - 07/10/09 04:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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what the fuck is a golden freudian
Allow me to reword it. It was a Freudian slip and I called it "golden" because it was just perfect. "Drunk on your own poser" instead of "drunk on your own power."
In reality, it was just a typo... but still... what I'm trying to say is it may be amazingly accurate.
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10651286 - 07/10/09 04:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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love and power can both be achieved without the use of 'magic'
Love can be found through simple meditation and compassion. Power I find magic helps with; besides I enjoy that synchronistic trance state that comes with working with the metaphysical. It makes life far more interesting IMO.
yea but meditation is not magic. love can also be found through searching through the internet(i fell in love with mycology because of it) and by exploring the world/your surroundings. how has magic helped with yer current level of power?
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with knowledge comes wisdom and those can only be a achieved through trial and error. i do not believe that you can do a spell to gain them.
Not necessarily. Some entities may be conjured to convey knowledge; I am not sure whether any exist to convey wisdom but I'm sure a chaos magick working would suffice. Personal life experience is probably the best tack, though.
have you conjured any entities yet? I figure if people have had success conjuring entities that it would be more widely known and that more people would be doing conjuring..
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i find many people in power to be unhappy because too much stress is put on them. as for having immortality, i find that that would suck balls... if yu were immortal you would still have feelings so if yu were to become beheaded and buried, yu would experience the pain of being eaten by worms, fungi and parasites which would be horrible.
Preferably I'd have all the power and none of the responsibility. Many people supposedly in power are also just yet another pawn in the chain of a dog-eat-dog hierarchy; fuck that. I'm blazing my own path and be damned with the rest of them. Also I would only choose immortality if it were a happy eternity of life.
that would be nice if that would be possible. how would yu be able to tell if your immortality would lead to an eternity of happy life? "I'm blazing my own path and be damned with the rest of them." theres that compassion talking =P
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: sterbeklang]
#10651291 - 07/10/09 04:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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what the fuck is a golden freudian
Allow me to reword it. It was a Freudian slip and I called it "golden" because it was just perfect. "Drunk on your own poser" instead of "drunk on your own power."
In reality, it was just a typo... but still... what I'm trying to say is it may be amazingly accurate.
lol
i gotcha
would yu please enlighten me on what freudian means?
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651298 - 07/10/09 04:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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lacma50 said: how has magic helped with yer current level of power?
I'm able to do things that I wasn't able to do before. I've found when I get into a good headspace that my desires satisfy themselves on a much faster rate than ordinarily, and this I would attribute to magick.
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lacma50 said: have you conjured any entities yet? I figure if people have had success conjuring entities that it would be more widely known and that more people would be doing conjuring..
Yes, I have. There are many books, tutorials, and posts on occult forums if you're interested further.
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that would be nice if that would be possible. how would yu be able to tell if your immortality would lead to an eternity of happy life? "I'm blazing my own path and be damned with the rest of them." theres that compassion talking =P
Baby steps brother, baby steps. 
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: lacma50]
#10651331 - 07/10/09 04:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm able to do things that I wasn't able to do before. I've found when I get into a good headspace that my desires satisfy themselves on a much faster rate than ordinarily, and this I would attribute to magick.
so yu use magic to focus yer mind?
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Yes, I have. There are many books, tutorials, and posts on occult forums if you're interested further.
occult forums...
those sound promising...
what being have yu conjured up and if that being had an image what was it?
what i meant to say in the original post was that if conjuring beings was actually real(for lack of a better term) that it would be in the media in ways besides 'man commits suicide after a being he conjured up told him the the only way to really gain ultimate power was to kill himself'...
ya know what im gettin at?
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Baby steps brother, baby steps.
no big man steps?
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Re: Good books on white magick? [Re: deCypher]
#10651987 - 07/10/09 11:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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well, i don't know what one might consider white magick, but for working with intelligences franz bardon's work is solid. even DMK's Modern Magick is actually well written.
do you perform the LBRP? a little known aspect of this ritual is that one can converse with the 4 archangels of this ritual w/o the need for any evocatory technique.
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