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 Ritalin backed as brain-booster
#10541911 - 06/20/09 09:14 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Later on in this advert for Novartis (congratulations BBC on your continual breach of contract) they talk about how it would be a good thing for doctors, pilots and other professionals to take this drug.
Yes, because back when they gave pilots methampethamine in WW2 (which, imo, is safer than this fuckup drug. No, I don't like any amphetamine, but if you're going for stimulants, might as well go for the most potent) there were no mistakes or side effects (psychosis, brain damage, death) ever. Anyway! Enjoy this advert from the home office/BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8106957.stm
Ritalin backed as brain-booster
Healthy people should be able to take the anti-hyperactivity drug Ritalin to boost brain power, a UK ethicist says.
Bioethics expert Professor John Harris, of the University of Manchester, said if the drug was safe for children, adults should also be able to take it.
Writing on the British Medical Journal website, he said many students were already using the drug - which is illegal without prescription in the UK.
A US expert said there were too many risks for it to be more widely used.
“ Safe always means safe enough ”
Professor John Harris, University of Manchester
Ritalin, also known as methylphenidate, is given to children with ADHD - attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
Many doctors say it can help children control their behaviour and perform better at home and school.
If not prescribed, Ritalin is a class B drug in the UK, meaning possession can lead to a five-year prison sentence and dealing could put you behind bars for 14 years.
But there is increasing evidence that healthy adults, especially students, are using it to enhance their mental ability.
'Synthetic sunshine'
Professor Harris said Ritalin's benefits included enhanced study skills and concentration.
He said it was "unethical" to stop healthy people from taking the drug and that there was evidence it was safe to use.
And he added: "Safe always means safe enough and since no drugs are free of side effects, that always means the consumer has judged the risks of adverse effects worth taking, given the probable benefits."
Professor Harris said that if it was safe for children to use Ritalin over a long period of time for a condition that was not usually life-threatening, there was no reason to prevent healthy adults using it too.
He said it was "not rational" to be against human enhancement and likened using drugs to enhance brain power to the use of "synthetic sunlight" - firelight, lamplight and electric light.
"Before synthetic sunshine people slept when it was dark and worked in the light of day.
"With the advent of synthetic sunshine, work and social life could continue into and through the night, creating competitive pressures and incentives for those able or willing to use it to their advantage."
Pressure
But Professor Anjan Chatterjee, of the University of Pennsylvania, said there were too many risks in taking Ritalin unless a person was actually ill.
He said the US Food and Drug Administration had labelled it with a "black box" - the most alarming of possible warnings - because of its high potential for abuse, dependence, risk of sudden death and serious adverse effects on the heart.
“ It is not acceptable to recommend that healthy people take drugs to enhance performance ”
Professor Anjan Chatterjee, University of Pennsylvania
Professor Chatterjee questioned whether children at top schools would take Ritalin in "epidemic proportions" and if people such as pilots, police officers and on-call doctors would be pressurised into taking the drug to perform better.
Again writing in the BMJ, he said: "Endorsing the legal non-therapeutic use of methyphenidate or other cognitive enhancers now is premature.
"The efficacy and risks of enhancers in healthy people needs to be researched adequately and this information needs to be disseminated broadly.
"Until such preparations are made, it is not acceptable to recommend that healthy people take drugs to enhance performance."
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Nothing ever mentioned about the racetam class drugs, ginseng, ginko or other nootropics. No. Just push your fucking neuron destroying stimulants.
I know people will be reading this article and thinking "Yeah they are right! Gimme some damn stimutacs so I can be smart to!" It doesn't work that way. I'm all for people not going to jail for five years for eating a chemical, even if it'll fuck them up. The punishment is the long term mental health damage, incarceration is a worthless insult to the injury of ingesting poison.
I doubt I'll see another article like this for some time, but it'd be taking the piss if "doctors" (drug pimps) started to advocate legalisation of stimulants and other hardcore drugs, whilst the Gestapo, populace hating UK government continues to steal tax money from it's people, to fund more adverts saying how bad cannabis is.
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Quote:
Visionary Tools said:
Nothing ever mentioned about the racetam class drugs, ginseng, ginko or other nootropics. No. Just push your fucking neuron destroying stimulants.
you, sir, get 5 
yep, it's in big pharma's interest to keep people spinning their wheels, even if it makes them retarded and depressed in the long run
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Re: Ritalin backed as brain-booster [Re: piracetam]
#10542121 - 06/20/09 10:09 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gimme some damn stimulants so I can be smarter!
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redeyesmj
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Being a former speed freek i cannot believe this shit. Stimulants can really fuck up your brain, I am still having problems with depression and lethargy at times because of speed withdraw. I may mention that i have been clean for 4 years if that goes to show how much it can really fuck up your brain. I was not depressed or any thang like that tell i quit speed. But than again what do doctors care they can sell them Ritalin than when they come back depressed they can sell them some more pills.
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Re: Ritalin backed as brain-booster [Re: redeyesmj]
#10543509 - 06/20/09 03:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This whole stimulants make you "smarter" is entirely inaccurate theory for many reasons.
First, while it gives the impression of improved cognitive ability, it is merely due to the fact that an individual is using a STIMULANT.
Second, it doesn't include the harmful side affects, and potential dangers of long term usage of stimulants.
Granted, I've abused them to feel more productive, but it comes at a cost.
I lose creativity, and I end up crashing... HARD. Not to mention the hallucinations from using them too frequently, in conjunction of little sleep.
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Re: Ritalin backed as brain-booster [Re: redeyesmj]
#10543671 - 06/20/09 03:38 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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redeyesmj said:
Being a former speed freek i cannot believe this shit. Stimulants can really fuck up your brain, I am still having problems with depression and lethargy at times because of speed withdraw. I may mention that i have been clean for 4 years if that goes to show how much it can really fuck up your brain. I was not depressed or any thang like that tell i quit speed. But than again what do doctors care they can sell them Ritalin than when they come back depressed they can sell them some more pills.
I still regret the few times I dabbled in base. If I could go back in time, there's loads of things I'd tell myself. One of them is to stay the fuck away from anything the pharma companies push. I don't even like piracetam that much because it was "too speedy" for my liking.
I'm not sure what's worse, the weasle wording, like "stimulant sunshine" or that this is a fucking ritalin advert disgused as a news article on the BBC, which is supposed to be non commercial (Which is why when U2 released a new album earlier this year, the BBC devoted a week to cover it, along with U2 performing on the roof of broadcasting house.)
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